Just a couple years ago on two occasions I consider myself to have got lucky and stumbled on a couple old Black and Decker classics in fantastic condition, that look as if they have not seen much use at all, and at prices hard to pass up. One of them is a 2720 Industrial 8 amp router with owners manual. The other is a 7620 Commercial 5.5 amp, with a case, two wrenches, a edge guide, and owners manual. Generally people probably don't get too excited about Black and Decker, but as far as I know DeWalt started out as B&D's Industrial line.