June 1, 20233 yr Popular Post I'll have to admit, that I do not like slotted or phillips drive. Almost all the screws I've bought in the last 25 years have been "rolled" so the two-diameter pilot hole is the thing of the past for me.. I use square drive in most of my screws and star (Torx) on construction work. The thing I don't like about Torx is the wide variety of drive sizes, I sometimes have to stop and find a T20, T25, etc. And I don't use drywall screws except for drywall. Too brittle, phillips head that slips, and threaded all the way to the top prevents upper piece from drawing in. Sorry, Norm. https://www.woodmagazine.com/wood-supplies/fasteners-hardware/screw-fundamentals?did=9283026-20230601&utm_campaign=wood-online_newsletter&utm_source=wood&utm_medium=email&utm_content=060123&lctg=a96c71695cc66a880e55baf7da5346a33334b504
June 1, 20233 yr Pretty much the same for me. I went through my stashes and threw out all the slotted screws, but the phillips are equally unwelcome. Like you I use drywall screws for drywall (not that I do much of that) and square drive for everything else....when possible. I've found that local supplies of square drive are, well, limited.....or maybe non-existent. So torx fills in a few spots...you're correct, there are too many sizes of torx drivers.
June 1, 20233 yr Right on. I likewise stopped using Phillips maybe 25 years ago and slotted maybe 30 years ago. I had some Dewalt Torx bits and the bit actually shattered so I was not too happy with that. Never had trouble with square drive bits except they do eventually round off.
June 1, 20233 yr Author FWIW, most of the screws I have bought in the last 20 years (except for Kreg Pocket Hole screws) have come from wwhardware.com, Deerwood screws. Unfortunately, they don't carry much but size #8, but that's 90% of what I use. https://www.wwhardware.com/ultimate-square-drive-flat-head-screws-8-scus8 Forgot to mention, that I also hate the ones that are combo square and phillips, sometimes called Squipps. They don't work well for either, but better for square. I actually had a customer once that tried his phillips driver to remove a fastener and couldn't get it. I used my square drive and amazed him. My thought is that if you don't have the right screwdriver, you shouldnt be messing with it. Electrical outlets sometimes have square+phillips+slot all in one. Egad! I found out recently that Milwaukee makes a driver and bits just for this mess of a screw head. Sort of defeats the purpose, no? Works on any, but you need a new bit to use it.
June 1, 20233 yr i build lots of things for out pistol range, including walls. i intentionally use phillips head screws, on the basis that if you have a screw gun, you have a matching bit somewhere in your collection of bits that always follows the gun around, and therefore, if you needed to repair something, you'd be able to do so. if i used a less common headed screw, it no doubt would be the one that you didn't have that day (square, torx).
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