This certain blade is used for corner slots in Bernadette's frames for her glass. I have used this for so many years I have actually forgotten how much time I save with the tape glued on to the side of the blade.  

  And before the carbide blades came along my old uncles taught me to bend out some cutting tips each directions until the right thickness was achieved for the same reason as the tape but back then all we had to used was 1/4" plywood.

Wow, just thinking back makes a person feel old real quick.

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Edited June 6, 20214 yr by Smallpatch

Jesse, is that depth what you need to account for the "V" jig?

 

 

Right Gene, the home made v jig cuts each corner slot.

  But the first thing is size the wood for each side of the frame. Then before the ends are 45 degree mitered cut the groove for the picture to go into and save the thin strips for they will be stapled back into hold the picture or glass...

Once these thin strips are cut out then using my big Incra miter guage I cut the 45 on one end. To cut the first angle on either end of the wood I flip groove up side down for the first 45. I then lay the picture or glass in the groove to determine where I want the other end 45ed. As long as each opposing side are the exact length you will have perfect corners...that is if you have the saw set for 45 degree angles. The reason I saw the first 45 with the groove upside down the all the shortening you will be saw the other end up right so you wan see the line you just marked..

I use this set of Sears very old miter clamps and they are exactly built right so a large square lay in perfectly in each corner...

   If I have to keep adjusting each clamp in each corner until the large says I'm correct I can then take any one side out to put the glue one the wood with out changing the other squared corners. Once I clamp that edge boasrtd back in I and tighten the two clamps I can again check the frame to make sure is is still square every where I can the flip the frame around to glue the other two corners. As long as I make sure the clamps are all laying flat on the table saw it will be ready to set clamped up for an hour or two before the clamps can come off to be put in the v jig to saw the corner slots. 

  This first picture shows I'm ready to put the frame in to the v jig....The glue has set up so if I handle the frame easy it will take the corner cuts and be ready for the BB to be glued in to each corner.

 After the frame is ready to cut the corner slots I measure from the corner in toward the groove and don't cut in to the groove but stay a hair shorter.  I cut each corner then lay the frame down like in the picture and measure the depth of the slot and saw the Baltic Birch the exact width I need so once I cut the lines I just marked will disappear. 

I install each corner the same as I drew the lines. I like the slot free to be able to slide the pieces in with lots of glue.

Before the glue is applied I sand each corner piece against a course piece of sand paper while holding the pieces vertical against the sand paper....Doing this, there is not much sanding after the glue has set.

 

Gene I use a 23 thousandths pin nailer for attaching the strips and don't use any glue on the strips the pins are 3/4" long and a person can remove the strips without tearing any thing up.

  It takes less that and hour to cut the wood and be glued up waiting for the glue to setup.

Just make sure the first angle is sawed with the groove down then your other end will be up with your cut line showing for the length cut.

Edited June 6, 20214 yr by Smallpatch

Also I don't know the depth of the slot until the four sides are glued up then can measure how deep I want to go..  I usually want to stop the cut before I get to the cut out for the picture of glass.

  I then can saw each corner with the v jig then after each corner has a groove sawed in I can lay a ruler in the groove and determine how wide to cut the Baltic Birch. Then slide the BB in the groove and mark each corner.

 These are for 2 different size frames. I have to use a scroll saw to cut on the lines and this will be perfect for this size slot.. I do edge sand the two edges that will stick on from the wood so they will be smooth like the frame and I won't need any more work done in those areas. I found it important to keep the frame up right when measuring for where to saw so the drawn lines on the frame will be upright.

  I have my miter gauge to the right side of the blade for all my cutting of the angles....Important when I'm saying the first angle on the end of each pieces of frame should be cut with the glass or picture groove should be on. the bottom of each pieces of wood then when you cut the other end with the 45 you will be sawing for the right length so you will be able to see the drawn line.

 

I have mounted several stained glass panels in frames recently. I have found that cutting the recess 1/2" deep (assuming a 3/4 thick frame) allows me to line the inside of the battens with 1/8" black foam insulation. This allows the contact on the glass panel to support inconsistencies due to differing glass thickness and give it a uniform look when clear class is used. The black color disappears from the outside. I cut the recess 5/8" wide and allow 3/8" overlap of the glass in the frame. I then use hot melt glue to secure the glass side to side and secure the stained glass panel battens with a pin nailer in the 1/4" space around the glass. This way if the glass is damaged it can be removed for repair.

 

I have been sidelined with health issues but I will catch everyone up with the several projects I have completed as soon as I am able. I have missed the dialogue here and hope to get back to my activity soon.    

Good hint!

 

On 6/6/2021 at 3:58 PM, Smallpatch said:

Also I don't know the depth of the slot until the four sides are glued up then can measure how deep I want to go..  I usually want to stop the cut before I get to the cut out for the picture of glass.

  I then can saw each corner with the v jig then after each corner has a groove sawed in I can lay a ruler in the groove and determine how wide to cut the Baltic Birch. Then slide the BB in the groove and mark each corner.

 These are for 2 different size frames. I have to use a scroll saw to cut on the lines and this will be perfect for this size slot.. I do edge sand the two edges that will stick on from the wood so they will be smooth like the frame and I won't need any more work done in those areas. I found it important to keep the frame up right when measuring for where to saw so the drawn lines on the frame will be upright.

  I have my miter gauge to the right side of the blade for all my cutting of the angles....Important when I'm saying the first angle on the end of each pieces of frame should be cut with the glass or picture groove should be on. the bottom of each pieces of wood then when you cut the other end with the 45 you will be sawing for the right length so you will be able to see the drawn line.

 

I did a lot of keyed joints recently.   I have tried putting painter's tape on the corner prior to cutting the slot.  Then glue in the key.   Remove the tape after the glue has set and it seems to keep the glue out of the grain on the piece being glued.

junglejohn I meant to get back to you but lost where I am!!!!?  I realize everyone has their own way of doing things and I do appreciate your explanation but,,,,,,where did you come up with needing to put felt or something soft for the glass to rest on? wife does all the glass work and I can't figure out where you are getting so much difference in the thickness's of the glass you mentioned....so I believe you are taking too many extra steps when framing stained glass...installing felt and using hot melt glue I don't think a person needs. But I do believe each frame needs the baltic birch plywood inserted in to each corner!

   Now, wife only does the foiling around the glass and does not use Came. And at first while framing the glass I decided the foil inside the wood frame is not needed so is a waste of copper foil and solder....plus all the different brands and styles of glass is almost the same height so the little strips I cut out of the frames is all that is needed and I have made up to six foot tall frames and nothing has ever caused the glass to crack or fall out in the 20 years of keeping her glass work looking more better with the little wood frames I supply

  The main thing that has saved my mucho time when building the frames is the extra blue tape I add to one side of the saw blade to give me the exact width of cut the blade makes for the BB. This tape is showing in the first picture of this post. Lots of trial and error to start with but hey, after that its smooth sailing.

   

 

  

I also frame things like her butterfly's and thing with irregular out side edges.. A little harder to do but you don't see many frames being made like this...folks might be a little lazy sometimes especially when it comes to helping the better half if she is the stained glasser.  

 

  Keith, if I am worried about the glue around the inserts and want perfect edges with no glue showing up the simplest and fastest way is I simply take a smidgen of wood off each side of the fame with the table saw! But if a wood worker is only so so his frames will probably be out of square!

   When building these butterfly frames I only have 3/16" of the outside of the glass enclosed in the wood.

Also when securing the strips around the glass I use .023 pin nails 3/4" long about each foot of frame.

Those butterfly frames are really something Jess!  How about a pic of one with the stained glass in it?

10-4  as soon as the humidity calms down. Spray right now makes clear lacquer turn into a white cloud! Almost rain every day for the last 3 months.  We drove through the everglades some years back and this is what our area looks like! plus our mos-skitters are as big as those alligators were.

  I'm running the referig air conditioner along with the electric heater to try and level everything off... 

   Did you finally get your wife retired?

Edited June 28, 20214 yr by Smallpatch

Each side is different so she can hang it for what suits her. They like all colors in a room to be compatible to each other???????

 

The two sides of this frame will be glued together so no repairs to glass later!!!

11 hours ago, Smallpatch said:

Each side is different so she can hang it for what suits her.

 

That is beautiful Jess!

And yes, the wife retired the first of the year.  I don't see her a lot, usually around supper time!

Kinda like my wife. When I sold out and started moving things here I more or less forced her to retire from being a nurse at the hospital. But then as soon as we got here she started taking stained glass lessons n 1999. Then someone mentioned to her they needed an RN to cover all the eldery folks that couldn't drive to see their doctors and for a long time she was always gone. I think they have a name of Visiting Nurse tied to that type of pill spreading. She bought a Prius for that driving episode and wow did she save lots of gas. Liked it so much she traded it in for another one... 

   So working on stained glass all night and being gone all day this reminded me how I used to work. And now after we put that 53 foot ref trailer here for her shop I still have to go and visit her in it so I can remember what she looks like from time to time...

   When the two sides get dry I will glue the butterfly together and since I cut both sides at the same time with the scroll saw they should look like one 3/4" thick piece of wood. 

  I found her another project and since we are on these guys routes coming and going from their summer to their winter homes I will get her to make this big Monarch so we can hang it out side about their arriving times both ways.

 

Are you guys traveling any?

 

4 hours ago, Smallpatch said:

 

 

Kinda like my wife. When I sold out and started moving things here I more or less forced her to retire from being a nurse at the hospital. But then as soon as we got here she started taking stained glass lessons n 1999. Then someone mentioned to her they needed an RN to cover all the eldery folks that couldn't drive to see their doctors and for a long time she was always gone. I think they have a name of Visiting Nurse tied to that type of pill spreading. She bought a Prius for that driving episode and wow did she save lots of gas. Liked it so much she traded it in for another one... 

   So working on stained glass all night and being gone all day this reminded me how I used to work. And now after we put that 53 foot ref trailer here for her shop I still have to go and visit her in it so I can remember what she looks like from time to time...

  

Tell your wife she does excellent work, Oh and you too

I for sure want to see her monarch when she gets it done!