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sharpened an iron, today

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Have a Francken Plane....90% Sargent #3416 Jack plane....has a Bailey iron, chipbreaker is a Bailey off of a trans. plane....rear handle? 

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Rear handle didn't fit quite right...swapped that out.   Iron needed to be flattened on the back, a new straight, single 25 degree bevel ground and honed to 2000grit.   Chipbreaker?  placed on the bench, it would rock...flipped over, a ball pean hammer to "Un-rock" it...about 5 good "taps" right where the high spot was...then polished the edge.   Slot in the iron is a tad too narrow for the lateral lever....

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I checked the body...sole was indeed..flat...Cleaned away a lot of crud build up in the cavities ...oily paint brush seemed to work.

 

Took a bit to adjust things...first trip down some Pine..

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Had it set a tad too deep...tried a pine 1x, laid flat...first few passes...

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Was still a tad thick...kept adjusting...noticed the grain on the board...

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Works much better, when I go WITH the grain.  Might keep this one around, for a while...

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What stone(s) do you use to sharpen your blades? I have 3 planes that I need to tune and sharpen, but have limited experience with hand planes.

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I think Steven uses stones. I use the scary sharp method.

 

This one I found is kinda long but covers angles, micro bevels and more.

 

SCARY SHARP

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I use a "mix" of things....sometimes an iron or chisel is too out of whack....the grinder will get things back in order...but not sharp...so

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Disc is a worn 180 grit.   Plywood part is set to 90 degrees to the disc ( blades slide a bit better..)and there is a cup of water handy....blades are held at ~ 25 degrees to the spinning disc,,,until my fingers get too warm...then a dunk, and back at it again.   back of either the chisels or the plane irons is also flattened here...then over to the bench..

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This is what I started with.   And, the chipbreaker is also worked over....until it mates up with the flat back of the iron...without any gaps between them.   So..

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I freehand.  I start with the coarse Carborundum stone,with a bit of 3in1 oil.    Then to the 600 grit India stone.

Then a couple papers...a 1000grit wet-n-dry and then a 2000 grit one...laid right on top of the stone..

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Getting there....then either an old leather belt for a strop...

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Or..use a buffer...

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To polish the bevels....and the edge of the chipbreaker.   Check to make sure no gaps between the two..

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Then assemble these two.   I try to keep the chip breaker about 1mm(or less) back from the edge.   It sits on the non-beveled face of the iron. Set up in a plane for a test  drive...

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Advance the depth until it just starts to cut....check that the shaving is more or less centered...and have some fun...

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kind of hard to stop...Same with the chisels...

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Before...

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And...after....(have a bare patch on my left forearm from the one in the middle)

I keep things rather simple....a flat back, and a single 25 degree bevel...no "ruler tricks"  or micro whatevers...then back to work.   The #62's iron was stropped on the cloth buffer wheels on the bevel...cloth wheels have a bit of green compound rubbed into them...then a quick buff on each wheel....bevel is up...lightly held.

 

A David Weaver over on Wood Central uses the wheel trick....calls it a Unicorn Profile.   even has a few videos out, about it...

On 9/3/2020 at 11:40 PM, Gerald said:

I think Steven uses stones. I use the scary sharp method.

 

This one I found is kinda long but covers angles, micro bevels and more.

 

SCARY SHARP

Thank you sir, I’ll check it out.

On 9/4/2020 at 2:34 AM, steven newman said:

I use a "mix" of things....sometimes an iron or chisel is too out of whack....the grinder will get things back in order...but not sharp...so

1519428147_Jackplanerehabsharpeningstation.JPG.fa7f1bbb53376e7f6a844af3cf5b60af.JPG

Disc is a worn 180 grit.   Plywood part is set to 90 degrees to the disc ( blades slide a bit better..)and there is a cup of water handy....blades are held at ~ 25 degrees to the spinning disc,,,until my fingers get too warm...then a dunk, and back at it again.   back of either the chisels or the plane irons is also flattened here...then over to the bench..

343337084_Jackplanerehabironsthebefore.JPG.d9113a806d7c3c7c106efedb97f06bc7.JPG

This is what I started with.   And, the chipbreaker is also worked over....until it mates up with the flat back of the iron...without any gaps between them.   So..

1707979964_Jackplanerehaboilstones.JPG.47d59ef5eccfab6c319bfba6244c3b0b.JPG

I freehand.  I start with the coarse Carborundum stone,with a bit of 3in1 oil.    Then to the 600 grit India stone.

Then a couple papers...a 1000grit wet-n-dry and then a 2000 grit one...laid right on top of the stone..

430466312_Jackplanerehab2000grit.JPG.dc1fc52734d316d2a4668a40853296a0.JPG

Getting there....then either an old leather belt for a strop...

1692971758_Jackplanerehabstropped.JPG.cb4fec7a41ee269332a5790fbf8a4a30.JPG

Or..use a buffer...

275883323_ShopImprovementsnewbuffer2.JPG.f569ae2f3e52552b880d60cea6cd3515.JPG

To polish the bevels....and the edge of the chipbreaker.   Check to make sure no gaps between the two..

1605398670_Jackplanerehabcleanandflat.JPG.a0deb67bbad944812d6275c57962b49c.JPG

Then assemble these two.   I try to keep the chip breaker about 1mm(or less) back from the edge.   It sits on the non-beveled face of the iron. Set up in a plane for a test  drive...

573976982_Jackplanerehabtestbed.JPG.614e5cd1c49249fce5b1f6ad441747d2.JPG

Advance the depth until it just starts to cut....check that the shaving is more or less centered...and have some fun...

1192708116_Jackplanerehabshavings.JPG.775ecfff984423f457cd5f2151d90a07.JPG

kind of hard to stop...Same with the chisels...

139921884_AugustYardSale2Chisels.JPG.ddc7b0fe2e314fef4e2513eaf435fe31.JPG

Before...

1714087887_AugustYardsale2chiselssharpened.JPG.c9e4a583a6f8574d58cf29d7dd99c55e.JPG

And...after....(have a bare patch on my left forearm from the one in the middle)

I keep things rather simple....a flat back, and a single 25 degree bevel...no "ruler tricks"  or micro whatevers...then back to work.   The #62's iron was stropped on the cloth buffer wheels on the bevel...cloth wheels have a bit of green compound rubbed into them...then a quick buff on each wheel....bevel is up...lightly held.

 

A David Weaver over on Wood Central uses the wheel trick....calls it a Unicorn Profile.   even has a few videos out, about it...

Wow that seems like a lot. I was thinking like 2 diamond stones and a strop. 😂 Guess I need to step it up a notch or two.

11 hours ago, PatriotWoodturning said:

Wow that seems like a lot. I was thinking like 2 diamond stones and a strop. 😂 Guess I need to step it up a notch or two.

Two stones and strop are fine for most sharpening, unless you got a really jacked up edge. I have two go to stones and I have never stropped my plane irons. I do however strop my carving knives.

8 minutes ago, John Morris said:

Two stones and strop are fine for most sharpening, unless you got a really jacked up edge. I have two go to stones and I have never stropped my plane irons. I do however strop my carving knives.

What stones are your "go to" stones?

22 minutes ago, PatriotWoodturning said:

What stones are your "go to" stones?

Just for general maintenance I use a 4000 and 8000, for quick touch ups others use a strop, I suppose my touch up is over the 8000. I have a 220/1000 combo stone for getting those nasty things fixed, but if you are careful with your tools, you'll not use them, very rarely. Or you will use the 220/1000 for shaping your iron, cambering the edge or changing the bevel.

My advise is not to get too hung up in sharpening, I mean, you need your irons sharp, but really, it's just like anything, folks can get a little too guru into it, and next thing you know you got a plethora of sharpening jigs and stones and a full blown sharpening station etc etc, not knocking those woodworkers, just saying stay simple starting out, you may like the minimalist approach in sharpening, I know I do. And, my greatest advice is, learn to free hand sharpen, it's quick, and it's enjoyable.

I've been meaning to get a free hand sharpening topic tutorial up here, but just have not done it yet, for now though if you go to our beloved YouTube and do a search for Freehand Sharpening Plane Irons, you'll find some great information.

Here's one I found for ya, James Wright is not boring to watch.

 

 

Always pick up something in watching sharpening. Everyone has a different take. Yes I can sharpen freehand but do go back to guides if it gets a little wonky. Now what I picked up was the way he removes the iron.

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