steven newman Posted June 3, 2018 Report Posted June 3, 2018 A Village wide yard sale day was a bust..for me..the Boss found a few items.... Second try later in the day....one site had a few "water pump pliers" at a dollar each. Since I can never find mine WHEN I need them..bought three...and gave a couple to my Daughter, since she is the one that swipes mine, anyway.. Hit a few more places....not much...where do they find all those clothes, anyway.... Found a spot...had a shed full of tools.....must be paying for the shed with the prices he was asking....found a $2 Chisel hiding amongst the $10 ones.. It IS an 1-1/2" wide chisel...stamped DEFIANCE by STANLEY Made in USA Another mushroom to clean up...and find a handle for....also in that shack/shed was a bucket of braces...8 or so..all overpriced.. Still carrying around that chisel, walked out back, to a "yard sale" area the fellow has....old tools and hardware, just sitting around on tables....exposed to any weather that comes along.. Found this trying to hide in a shady spot... Handsome, ain't he? Gave it a good drink oil 3in1 oil in all the moving joints ( like the Tin Man?) and got things cleaned up.. Sanded the wooden handles, wire wheeled the metal areas....added a coat of stain to the dried out wood.. Looked just like a slightly larger one I had...the larger one is a 10"... "New one" is a Stanley No. 945, 8" Has Stanley stamped all over the place.. Even on the chuck. As for that chisel..ground the mushroom down a bit.. Shined things up a bit, to where the logo will show up....DEFIANCE by STANLEY No. 1251 Made in USA May take a bit of work, to get it cleaned up.. Look close at the edge...see it "frown" there is also a slight bevel there... And this side has a double bevel ( chin?) and you can see the frown better.. need a bucket of water, and a day at the grinder, maybe...and find a leather-hooped handle for it... Not a great day, but, not too bad? The brace? Cost me a whopping $4 Gerald, Grandpadave52, Cal and 1 other 4 Quote
Grandpadave52 Posted June 3, 2018 Report Posted June 3, 2018 You did all right...chisel is going to take a bit or work, but that size, socketed and a Definance is worth the price. You'll have it paring shavings so thin you can't see them I'm sure. Nice find on the brace especially at that price and in the condition. I saw at a 1/2 dozen today with so much rust on them I couldn't read anything even using my phone flashlight...cheapest was $5 up to $10...not sure I would have give $10 for all of them...way to much work. HARO50 and steven newman 1 1 Quote
steven newman Posted June 3, 2018 Author Report Posted June 3, 2018 Drilled out the wooden plug, and the lip the mushroom made.....tuned up a handle blank to fit..and gave it a coat of Golden Oak stain.. Still need to resharpen the edge..until then, it can sit with the rest of the crew... Along with Lew's Mallet HARO50, Cal and Grandpadave52 3 Quote
Popular Post steven newman Posted June 5, 2018 Author Popular Post Report Posted June 5, 2018 Took a while, as I didn't want to "burn" the steel, but.. Not too bad now. Back bevel is gone, and the curved edge is now straight.. Along with the grinder and a cup of water...coarse stone ( carbonunnuum??) and a 600 grit stone. paper starts at 1000 and goes to 2000 grit. Leather belt is the strop, charged up with the green compound stick. Honing guide to set the bevel at 25 degrees. Back was flat, I just made it shine, is all.. May not be able to see through them,,,,still needs a bit more work. Next up? Made by Crescent Tool Co. of Jamestown, NY. a No. 175...1-1/4" wide all steel chisel....about..1928? Was in the large plastic tub of tools I got for $5 a while back. Have already cleaned that mushroom off.. Will get out the red paint pen later, once the rehab is done.....which might take a while.. And the bevel is over 40 degrees....talk about your "Beater Chisel".....some Plumber has beaten the heck out of this one.. Cal, HARO50, Grandpadave52 and 2 others 5 Quote
Grandpadave52 Posted June 5, 2018 Report Posted June 5, 2018 Ya' did that old Stanley proud. Handle is a perfect match and fit for it too. If only that old chisel could tell it's stories. Another great tool rescue by the Buckeye Bandit I've see a few like that Cresent but never paid much attention to be honest; from the way the striking heads were always mushroomed, I blew them off as some sort of old mason's chisel...really never bothered to look further. Guess I better going forward. p_toad and steven newman 2 Quote
Popular Post steven newman Posted June 10, 2018 Author Popular Post Report Posted June 10, 2018 Yesterday's hunting was even skimpier....couple of rusty braces.....a $20 backsaw just like the one I got now. A few planes, most looked like they had been mixed together to make whole ones,,and still missing things.....all except this one... Front knob was missing, I had a loaner at the shop. Seemed to hop right up into my hand, and didn't want set back down.. Cleaned a spot on the iron, and found a Sargent logo....more cleaning found a number.. So, now I had a model number, for this #3 sized plane....found another, once the base was cleaned up.. Also 408. Was informed the base is a type 2....but was also told this was the "wrong" frog..yet everything else is correct? Rear handle is Rosewood, BTW Whell to adjust the depth settings even has the correct knurling. Managed to get the thing cleaned up.. Looks a bit better? Need to sharpen it up...maybe later today.....$8 plane. lew, Cal, Dadio and 4 others 7 Quote
steven newman Posted June 10, 2018 Author Report Posted June 10, 2018 A mystery about that old plane....sometime in the distant past, some owner had replaced the type 2 frog with a one by Ohio Tool Co.....everything else on the plane, except for the front handle and bolt, is a type 2 Sargent #408. Handle is Rosewood. Logo on the iron is from 1901 era.... Just an $8 number 3 sized plane, may just sharpen it up, and use it. IF it had been complete, it would have been worth a LOT more....oh well.... HARO50, Grandpadave52 and p_toad 1 1 1 Quote
Grandpadave52 Posted June 10, 2018 Report Posted June 10, 2018 2 hours ago, steven newman said: number 3 sized plane, may just sharpen it up, and use it. IF it had been complete, it would have been worth a LOT more....oh well.... Even so, a No. 3 of any "flavor" is still a good find at least around here especially a 1901 era...lot of stories behind that. No doubt you'll have it rolling curls like it was new. Another great save! steven newman, Cal and HARO50 3 Quote
oldwoodie Posted June 11, 2018 Report Posted June 11, 2018 Gave 10.00 for a #5 Stanley Bailey plane that needs some tender loving care. Was that way too much to give for it? steven newman and Grandpadave52 2 Quote
oldwoodie Posted June 11, 2018 Report Posted June 11, 2018 I have noticed that Sargent planes are climbing in price recently. I have one and find it to be as good as a Stanley to use. steven newman, Cal and Grandpadave52 3 Quote
steven newman Posted June 11, 2018 Author Report Posted June 11, 2018 Good jack planes run from $10 up to way too much....depending on how much the seller watches Ebay..... Sargent planes seem to pass through the shop.....can't seem to keep them around very long.....This one may stick around a while... Cal and Grandpadave52 2 Quote
steven newman Posted June 11, 2018 Author Report Posted June 11, 2018 Not much going on, figured I could sharpen the Sargent iron up.. Not too bad? Set a tad deep...seems to work...shined things up a bit. Have another plane, about the same age... Stanley #4, Type 10, and the Sargent #408, type 2....with an Ohio Tool Co. frog. Strange thing is, both planes cost the same amount $8...... HARO50, p_toad and Grandpadave52 3 Quote
Grandpadave52 Posted June 12, 2018 Report Posted June 12, 2018 I knew you'd have it peeling curls in no time. Out of curiosity (and still a "plane grasshopper") did you put any camber on the Sargent blade or is it a straight edge? I think I remember reading you sharpened to 30o. Correct? steven newman 1 Quote
steven newman Posted June 12, 2018 Author Report Posted June 12, 2018 (edited) Straight edge, ground to 25 degrees That Crescent chisel was ground to 35 degrees. Edited June 12, 2018 by steven newman Grandpadave52 1 Quote
Grandpadave52 Posted June 12, 2018 Report Posted June 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, steven newman said: Straight edge, ground to 25 degrees That Crescent chisel was ground to 35 degrees. Well then I guessed the average of the two correct. Come to think of it, I think it's my Dunlap block plane sharpened to 30o...story for another time. HARO50 and steven newman 2 Quote
steven newman Posted June 17, 2018 Author Report Posted June 17, 2018 OK, STILL June, and yet another Village-wide Yard Sale event....off to the home of Airstream.... Hinges were from a sale before we even got to Jackson Center....$1 a pack. $0.10 on the coping saw ( had a new price tag on the other side of the handle...4" x 24" backsaw was$1.75..I think... Came across the REMAINS of a mitre box the saw would have fit....too much wrong with it, too many parts were gone.... Picked this 1/2" x 36" BESSEY pipe clamp for $4 and.. A Hargrave #600 pipe clamp with a 4' long 3/4" pipe installed....also $4....but..there was something else at that sale..kept pulling me back.. Finally asked how much...$4....ok, I think I can handle that... Millers Falls No. 900 "V" Line....same size as a Stanley #4 Boss wanted to head over to Sidney.....skimpy sales there...meh. Did get an oil change for the van, though. Wasn't too bad of a day.... Backsaw is straight as can be, and SHARP. Have since added a 6" blade to the Craftsman ( Atkins?) coping saw....have already cleaned the cutter in the plane... Was a busy day... p_toad, Cal, HARO50 and 1 other 4 Quote
Grandpadave52 Posted June 17, 2018 Report Posted June 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, steven newman said: Millers Falls No. 900 "V" Line....same size as a Stanley #4 Doesn't look like it's hardly been used...still has paint on the frog... You hit it out of the park today. All good stuff. Too stinking hot here today to venture out...I mowed instead... Cal and steven newman 2 Quote
steven newman Posted June 22, 2018 Author Report Posted June 22, 2018 Spent a little over an hour, last night....and cleaned the plane up, and sharpened it up.. May just keep it around awhile p_toad, HARO50, Gerald and 1 other 4 Quote
Grandpadave52 Posted June 22, 2018 Report Posted June 22, 2018 Looks like new...I'd say it is a keeper. steven newman 1 Quote
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