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Can you stain glue?

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in a word, no.   Titebond lab tested 11 glues, including 6 of theirs (stripes) and tried to stain them.   F.a.i.l.

 

So when you're gluing up, don't be sloppy (and don't be like Norm and have streams of glue running down a edge-to-edge joint.  If you wet the surface with water or mineral spirits, glue boo-boos (or should I say glue-boos) can show up before you stain.

 

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I love Norm, but he did introduce (IMHO) a lot of folks to some not-so-good practices. His glue ups were atrocious.

No matter how careful I am. Check and double check. I always miss a glue spot. Gggrrrrrr.

Norm always wiped his glue with a wet sponge.  I have done that a few times when necessary and found that it works well.

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1 hour ago, Fred W. Hargis Jr said:

I love Norm, but he did introduce (IMHO) a lot of folks to some not-so-good practices. His glue ups were atrocious.

I don't watch sports, but I quit watching NYW when I found myself screaming at the TV as if  Norm could hear me.   Like people do to the quarterback, basketball team, etc.   In addition to the glue ups

* Let's just check this for square -- there perfect.  For heaven's sake, tell me what to do if it's not square*

* Half-blind dovetails on a base molding?   Come on.  Inappropriate.  Just because you have a dovetail jig and routah.

* Time-Saver sander?   Yeah, everyone has the money and space for one of those.

* Just a few brads to hold while the glue dries?   What, you don't have a clamp?

* Don't grab a new bit for your router, just grab a new router.

 

My impression was he was a top notch carpenter, and growing into a furniture maker.

 

I quit watching and predicted he probably got given a bunch of Festool stuff near the end.   Do you remember he started off with a Shopsmith (with black tape over the name?)

 

To his credit, he got a lot of people interested in woodworking.   Hope they didn't pick up all the bad habits.  

 

 

* I have to learn from other's mistakes because I don't have enough time to make all the mistakes myself.

 

Norm got me interested. I'll admit that using brads to hold "while the glue dries" didn't make sense to me. I just assumed that he did this so that he could keep the process moving in the time he had available. Norm did have more tools available to him than most woodworkers.

Norm didn't own any of the tools or the shop.

 

Set design[edit]

The shop where the show was produced is owned by Morash and is located on his property even though the viewer was given the impression that it was in Abram's backyard.

The shop is 936 square feet (87.0 m2) in size.[1] The famous sliding barn door faces west. Along the west wall is the "back bench" and drill press. Along the south wall is the miter bench and storage unit, radial arm saw, and (not seen in episodes) a computer, a TV, and a small office area. The east wall of the shop has a staircase leading to a loft area, jig storage, horizontal edge sander, and dust collector. The north wall houses sheet goods, router table, bar clamps, Timesaver wide belt sander, planer, jointer, band saw, and various mobile tools. The center area of the shop consists of the table saw and associated outfeed tables as well as a large assembly table. In the northeast section of the building is a separate finishing room.

 

Note: Russel Morash was the shows creator.

 

Here is the link this info came from.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Yankee_Workshop

 

 

14 hours ago, lew said:

No matter how careful I am. Check and double check. I always miss a glue spot. Gggrrrrrr.

Lew, if you wipe the wood with a cloth dampened with MS, it will show the glue spots...as well as preview the finish.

 

From what I've read, Norm actually is a carpenter that became a woodworker when Morash saw his scrap pile was smaller than the other carpenters working on his house. No doubt he did a lot of things many (most) of us didn't like... but I still think he was far better than Scott Phillips.....another guy who uses the word "perfect" more than needed.

15 hours ago, kmealy said:

in a word, no. 

 

have you tried adding the stain pigment or dye to the glue??

14 hours ago, kmealy said:

Don't grab a new bit for your router, just grab a new router.

 

firm believer in this philosophy...

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1 hour ago, Fred W. Hargis Jr said:

Lew, if you wipe the wood with a cloth dampened with MS, it will show the glue spots...as well as preview the finish.

 

From what I've read, Norm actually is a carpenter that became a woodworker when Morash saw his scrap pile was smaller than the other carpenters working on his house. No doubt he did a lot of things many (most) of us didn't like... but I still think he was far better than Scott Phillips.....another guy who uses the word "perfect" more than needed.

 

I learned a lot fro Roy Underhill.   I think he was responsible for lighting the spark that really got me rolling.   No so much from Norm and Scott.

Another person with that multiple router philosophy was/is Bob Rosendahl. If anyone isn't familiar with the name, he's a Canadian that had a show called Router Workshop. It was not carried regularly by any PBS channel I watched, but on one show i did see he explained he needed a different bit to complete something he was doing. He pulled out a different router and dead panned "I firmly believe if you get a new bit you need a new router to go with it". Probably doesn't sound funny here, but I laughed my butt off. That aside, his show was another one that needed some improved editing, besides the fact they (he and his son) he did a lot stuff on a router table just because they could...not because it was the best way. But Roy Underhill's show is one of my favorites. Interesting as well as entertaining. Though I'm not a hand tool guy, you learn a lot about modern tools from the early hand tool versions and their use.

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45 minutes ago, Fred W. Hargis Jr said:

That aside, his show was another one that needed some improved editing, besides the fact they (he and his son) he did a lot stuff on a router table just because they could...not because it was the best way.

I remember seeing one of those programs and came to the same conclusion.  I was doing a demo on a table saw once and Pat Warner was there.   He said he that he did not have a table saw.59cda40f7f84035e905ecd2caea9111d.jpg

Re: Maslow's hierarchy....first is wood, then a saw, then a router, and a router, and a router, and a router, ad infinitum. 

Food never enters the equation.:D

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