Has anyone used these?

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Phillips-II-Plus-2-ACR-Philips-Driver-Bit-2-in-Long-2-Pack-80202/204002109

 

If so,

1.  do they work to keep the bits from slipping?
2.  do they fit standard #2 phillips screws?

 

I know, I know, I use square when I can, Torx sometimes, but sometimes I don't get the choice.

Edited November 17, 20178 yr by Ron Dudelston
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I've used Phillips bits that have the "ribs". Honestly, I didn't really see any real difference. I have not used this brand of bit. 

major success w/ these..

Apex and AIM bits...

all USA made...

https://www.montanabrandtools.com/

I bought a pack of Dewalt impact ready bits and find them very adequate.  The last a long time in my Dewalt 18v impact.

 

Keith, those Montana bits that stick mentioned are absolutely right at the top of the best made....and Menards carries several of them. I bought some in square drive and they're always the first ones I try to find when I'm using the impact driver. But to the question, I've not tried those Phillips bits.

14 hours ago, HandyDan said:

I bought a pack of Dewalt impact ready bits and find them very adequate.  The last a long time in my Dewalt 18v impact.

 

 

I found them to be be brittle and the quality to vary from one bit to the next in the same package...

I got some once a long time ago (yes, in a land far, far away).   They seemed to be pretty good at the time and they were the ACR bits.   Don't know what ever happened to them, but all hex bits go the way of the dodo eventually.  I think the last bunch of bits i bought was a couple of winters ago when HD had some xmas pack of Hitachi or somebody in 1" and 2"  sizes in small plastic containers.   Enough to last a long time and they were actually pretty decent quality (compared to some really cheap bits that don't hold up).

The reason I ask is that the theater set construction uses a lot of drywall screws, construction screws, deck screws.  Since we have a wide variety of skills, some Quadrex, lots of impact drivers, reuse a lot of screws, and never drill pilot holes, there's a lot of stripping of heads.  I've gotten them to switch to Torx T-25 but don't think we'll ever get rid of all the Phillips.    I was wondering if these ribbed drives would at least reduce some of my frustration.

Try this.

Edited September 26, 20178 yr by Gene Howe

1 hour ago, kmealy said:

I was wondering if these ribbed drives would at least reduce some of my frustration.

It may help some Keith, but using Phillips of any kind factored with inexperienced tool users is the bigger issue...Most "rookie" users don't understand the importance of fully engaging a Phillips slot and to do so "squarely."

Switching to the TORX or #2 square drive should help especially if planning to reuse. I know you know, but, drywall screws were not meant to be installed/removed/reused...a one & done purpose screw.

 

Same holds true for Phillips head construction screws...to be installed and left alone....that's basically why all automotive and industrial applications use hex head (and now some torx); they need to be removed for maintenance & repair. My dollar minus ninety-eight cents.

 

For commercial or industrial use, you can't go wrong with APEX brand...more expensive but far longer service life.

better grade screw...

tip that fits the screw...

seriously, if you are going to  build and then tear down to re-use...   get some torx or square deck screws and use those.   phillips are supposed to be able to torque out of the head so it doesn't get over-driven.   when my youngest was in HS she was on a team where they were building one of those pumpkin thrower things and it was put together with torx screws and the kids even managed to tear up my bit for that (I was not well at the time; think it was before my first heart attack and the other dads were "busy".   The square tip may be your best bet if the users are not accustomed to driving and sinking screws and then removing them later.  

 

Not even going into the difference between square and Robertson. 

2 hours ago, p_toad said:

she was on a team where they were building one of those pumpkin thrower things

How far did their pumpkin chucker chuck the pumpkin(s)? Which brings up the age old question...

How many pumpkins can a pumpkin chucker chuck if a pumpkin chucker can chuck pumpkins?

How about a Chuckie Pumpkin

 

It's amazing how quickly the original thread gets derailed.  Don't stop, though.  The unexpected is always entertaining.

...there's no insanity here! We don't do the same thing over and over and expect different results...just the same result. Once the question gets answered...it's game on...

Edited October 1, 20178 yr by schnewj

13 minutes ago, PostalTom said:

amazing how quickly the original thread gets derailed. 

 

how so????

On 9/26/2017 at 6:13 PM, p_toad said:

seriously, if you are going to  build and then tear down to re-use...   get some torx or square deck screws and use those.   phillips are supposed to be able to torque out of the head so it doesn't get over-driven.  

 

I agree, but I'm not the chief there.   I got them to convert to Torx on the last build, but still have a number of tubs of phillips around.   And the Torx are more expensive according to the boss.

11 hours ago, Stick486 said:

how so????

We started out talking about Phillips bits, and wound up with an evil pumpkin.  I venture to say the thread got derailed, at least temporarily.