PeteM Posted August 2, 2017 Report Posted August 2, 2017 (edited) I've been trying to orgranize my fastener collections. I found that 12 oz juice containers really work well, roughly accommodating a box of screws (100 or so, I think). Anyway, when the dust settled I found myself the proud puzzled possessor of 6 bottles of fine thread DW screws, 1" through 2.5". What would these be for? Maple studs? I don't unnderstan. Looks nice tho. Edited December 5, 2017 by Ron Dudelston tags added HARO50 1 Quote
Popular Post HandyDan Posted August 2, 2017 Popular Post Report Posted August 2, 2017 Found this. Coarse drywall screws feature coarse threads to secure gypsum board to studs.Fine drywall screws feature smaller heads and are used to secure drywall to metal studs. Self-drilling and pan-head screws can be used with metal studs or frames. Trim-head screws are used to attach wood trim over gypsum boards. Drywall Screws and Fasteners - Home Depot www.homedepot.com/.../how_to_install_drywall_with_right_nails_and_screws_HT_BG.. Dadio, PeteM, HARO50 and 2 others 5 Quote
HARO50 Posted August 2, 2017 Report Posted August 2, 2017 31 minutes ago, HandyDan said: Fine drywall screws feature smaller heads and are used to secure drywall to metal studs. Dan's the man! John Dadio 1 Quote
steven newman Posted August 2, 2017 Report Posted August 2, 2017 They also work fine in Hardwood. Need the coarse threads for Pine.....fine threads for Oak lew and Dadio 2 Quote
Stick486 Posted August 2, 2017 Report Posted August 2, 2017 1 hour ago, PeteM said: What would these be for? metal or hardwood studs... Quote
DAB Posted August 3, 2017 Report Posted August 3, 2017 You'll break those off before they bottom out in hardwood. Pre-drill and use tougher deck screws. HARO50 and Cal 2 Quote
Gene Howe Posted August 3, 2017 Report Posted August 3, 2017 52 minutes ago, DAB said: You'll break those off before they bottom out in hardwood. Pre-drill and use tougher deck screws. Yep. Sound advice. VOE...unfortunately. HARO50 1 Quote
kmealy Posted August 3, 2017 Report Posted August 3, 2017 I don't use drywall screws for woodworking. And I avoid Phillips head when I can. And hate, hate, hate the Quadrex. http://www.popularwoodworking.com/article/screws-screws-arent I do some volunteer work for a theater company building sets and props. They buy screws in 50 lb buckets. EVERYTHING is screwed together so they can take it apart and potentially re-use parts (Though two weeks ago, we had an "organization day" and filled a dumpster in a couple of hours.) They were smart enough to (eventually) move away from drywall screws for structural applications. I finally convinced them to go with Torx on the last bucket. We have tens of thousands of screws with stripped Phillips heads that can't be re-used. HARO50 1 Quote
Smallpatch Posted August 3, 2017 Report Posted August 3, 2017 Keith I feel if a person can't use a phillips screw with out stripping out the threads then the torx and square drive screws will be no different. Those kind of folks need to go back to their computers and never pick up a screw driver again.. 50 lb buckets, wow. HARO50 and steven newman 2 Quote
Fred W. Hargis Jr Posted August 3, 2017 Report Posted August 3, 2017 If'n those were mine, they would be on their way to the Habitat store.....you don't run into too many metal studs in a house (although, my last place had some ) or hardwood studs either. Drywall screws are kind of like latex paint, they have one good use: drywall (for latex, it's being wall paint). HARO50 1 Quote
kmealy Posted August 3, 2017 Report Posted August 3, 2017 3 hours ago, Smallpatch said: Keith I feel if a person can't use a phillips screw with out stripping out the threads then the torx and square drive screws will be no different. Those kind of folks need to go back to their computers and never pick up a screw driver again.. 50 lb buckets, wow. Well, it's non-pros (salesmen, bank officers, even a couple of MDs, HS students) gone wild with 12V impact drivers and not pushing hard enough. Probably some worn drivers and already been used screws too. Last week, the guy I was working with could not get one out. I looked and it was quadrex (inherently weak anyway). I pulled out my square drive and it came right out. I've had the same issue with customers, "How'd you get that out? I couldn't move it." HARO50 1 Quote
Dadio Posted August 3, 2017 Report Posted August 3, 2017 Helps if they reverse dirsction of the driver too. Herb HARO50 1 Quote
steven newman Posted August 3, 2017 Report Posted August 3, 2017 (edited) Have run into three kinds....fine thread, regular point...Fine thread, self-drilling ( Metal stud work) and the tiny Trim head screws...aka PITA. Used those when installing wood trim through drywall, and into metal studs....an office up in Marion, OH....where they blow-mold gas tanks for Honda( helped build that factory, and the brake plant beside it) I tend to pre-drill for almost any screw I use, I do NOT like torx nor Square drive. Can never find a tip that would last more than ONE LOUSY DAY...even ones from APEX. Lot of the "issues" with the Phillips heads....boils down to using the wrong sized tip. Edited August 3, 2017 by steven newman Quote
Joeb41 Posted August 4, 2017 Report Posted August 4, 2017 You will be doing yourself a favor by throwing them out, unless you are attaching drywall to metal studs, Quote
p_toad Posted August 4, 2017 Report Posted August 4, 2017 My house has steel studs on the outside (foam) walls and regular wood studs on the inside walls; so some of each got used (as well as self drilling/tapping for steel to steel connections). And yes...feel free to donate those extra (good) screws to your local Restore. I think every Saturday there's at least one person who wants some size of drywall screw that we don't have. We could sell those and tapcons by the box every weekend. Cal, HARO50 and Grandpadave52 3 Quote
Ron Altier Posted August 5, 2017 Report Posted August 5, 2017 I wonder how many screws are made in China of sub standard metal HARO50 1 Quote
Gene Howe Posted August 5, 2017 Report Posted August 5, 2017 23 minutes ago, Ron Altier said: I wonder how many screws are made in China of sub standard metal Just a WAG...as Carl Sagan would say " Billions and billions." Grandpadave52, HARO50 and Ron Altier 3 Quote
HARO50 Posted August 5, 2017 Report Posted August 5, 2017 On 8/3/2017 at 9:18 AM, kmealy said: I don't use drywall screws for woodworking. And I avoid Phillips head when I can. And hate, hate, hate the Quadrex. http://www.popularwoodworking.com/article/screws-screws-arent I do some volunteer work for a theater company building sets and props. They buy screws in 50 lb buckets. EVERYTHING is screwed together so they can take it apart and potentially re-use parts (Though two weeks ago, we had an "organization day" and filled a dumpster in a couple of hours.) They were smart enough to (eventually) move away from drywall screws for structural applications. I finally convinced them to go with Torx on the last bucket. We have tens of thousands of screws with stripped Phillips heads that can't be re-used. Good article, Keith. Thanks. John Quote
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