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veneer glue???

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I have some dyed birds eye maple veneer that has no backer. I have a vacuum bag and ran a sample run on a piece  about 6"x12". I used yellow glue on this one and had a couple of glue spots bleed thru. I have on another occassion used powdered resin and still had bleed thru.


I could use contact cement...........but there's just something about contact cement and "fine woodworking" that just don't mix in my opinion.


So???? Are there any of you guys that are veneer users??? And what adhesive, and how do you use it??

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Damnit!!! I forever forget to put my post in the right forum. Sorry bout that.

Powered resin should work ok. There is a site called monster woodshop.


http://www.monsterwoodshop.com/


The fellow that runs it is named Sal. He is about the best veneer guy I know. If anyone has the right stuff it would be him. Give him a call and ask. He is a very nice guy. bob

Got you covered Gary.

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I Might just have to give them a call tomorrow. Thanks Bob.

Bob Kloes said:

Powered resin should work ok. There is a site called monster woodshop.

The fellow that runs it is named Sal. He is about the best veneer guy I know. If anyone has the right stuff it would be him. Give him a call and ask. He is a very nice guy. bob

Contact cement really isn't appropriate for unbacked veneer, going through the bonding process can be a hassle without the paper backing. I use the plastic resin glue and the bleed through can be a hassle/PITA/problem. But (only a guess) it seems to me that it's more related to the quantity of glue than anything else. Some wood veneers have cracks/splits that contribute, but it still seems to be a problem of too much adhesive. Try using just a bit less. Stay with the plastic resin (or one of the liquid veneer glues) the extra open time is a real benefit.

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Fred..........I'm sure you are correct in the amount of glue applied. But, it's finding the right thickness of glue applied and you only have one shot.


One of my first times I glued up veneer, I used a curly red oak. Whow, was there bleed thru. I'm sure the open pores of the red oak was the main culprit. Anyway, I have learned more and more each time I break out the vacuum bag. 

Fred W. Hargis, Jr said:


Contact cement really isn't appropriate for unbacked veneer, going through the bonding process can be a hassle without the paper backing. I use the plastic resin glue and the bleed through can be a hassle/
PITA
/problem. But (only a guess) it seems to me that it's more related to the quantity of glue than anything else. Some wood veneers have cracks/splits that contribute, but it still seems to be a problem of too much adhesive. Try using just a bit less. Stay with the plastic resin (or one of the liquid veneer glues) the extra open time is a real benefit.

One thing that might help, at least in getting a consistent layer is to take an old credit card, or one of those fake ones that show up in the mail, or any thin piece of plastic and cut small notches on one edge. Use it just like a notched trowel. Try it and see if you get the amount of adhesive you want, if too much start over, not enough cut larger notches on the other side. I made one for my use and it worked really well...I'm afraid I lost when we moved last year so I guess I'll be starting over.

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