My larger bowls can only be done on the outboard due to the limited size of the inboard (14")

 

I'm wondering if there are any unusual concerns - especially safety issues that I need to be aware of when using the outboard.  

 

All suggestions, thoughts, tips, and comments would be greatly appreciated.  

 

SQ

 

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It it can't be fixed with glue and sawdust - it's not worth fixing.

Safety concerns will pretty well be the same as if you are turning in the normal mode.

 

Make sure it have it securely attached to a face plate of what ever you have holding it.

 

If the blank is out of round, take it slow until you get in balanced.

 

Tools of course need to be sharp.

 

 

 

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John Moody
John Moody Woodworks
http://www.johnmoodywoodworks.com

As always, I appreciate all the good advice.  

 

I solved the problem with the tool rest!  On a whim, decided to see if the tool rest from the old lathe would fit the new lathe.  Low and behold it did.  I am now able to finish the bowl I have started, and other bowls that don't exceed 13 1/2 - maybe even 13 3/4 inches in diameter.    The solution to the tool rest dilemma has been right here in the shop the entire time - and I just didn't know it. 

John Moody said:

Safety concerns will pretty well be the same as if you are turning in the normal mode.

 

Make sure it have it securely attached to a face plate of what ever you have holding it.

 

If the blank is out of round, take it slow until you get in balanced.

 

Tools of course need to be sharp.

 

 

 

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John Moody
John Moody Woodworks
http://www.johnmoodywoodworks.com

Keep a close watch on your tool rest.  The more you extend it, the more torque you put on it.  Think using a lever.  The longer the lever, the more force you can apply.  When you are turning you are transferring the force from the tool to the tool rest and then into the lathe bed and on to the floor. 

 

Keep all the locking levers tight, keep the tools sharp, take light cuts, and wear your PPE.

 

Appreciate your comments.  Will keep this in mind.  

 

SQ


Greg Coleman said:

Keep a close watch on your tool rest.  The more you extend it, the more torque you put on it.  Think using a lever.  The longer the lever, the more force you can apply.  When you are turning you are transferring the force from the tool to the tool rest and then into the lathe bed and on to the floor. 

 

Keep all the locking levers tight, keep the tools sharp, take light cuts, and wear your PPE.

 

Here is something I'll bet your husband could fabricate. A floor stand will reduce the forces on the "extension" tool rest.

 

http://www.toolpartsdirect.com/cgi-bin/schematic.cgi/delta/46-697/

 

I was turning a bowl and the gouge caught- snapped my tool rest off the post. Got it re-welded but it has never bee the same. There are tremendous pressures on the end of a long tool rest. So keeping the forces as close to the mounting post as possible will reduce the likelihood of failures. 

Lew

Lewis,

Wow.  what a horrible moment while turning.  Hopefully you weren't hurt.  

 

Thanks for the information about the portable tool rest.  Might be a good option if this outboard isn't sturdy enough. Seems Grizzly has changed the configuration on the outboard tool rest on the new machines they are selling. Appears to be stronger and more stable.  Plan to order the parts I'm going to need from Grizzly.  If this new configuration doesn't work, will seriously think about a portable tool rest.  

 

Thanks for all the information.

SQ

 

Lewis Kauffman said:

Here is something I'll bet your husband could fabricate. A floor stand will reduce the forces on the "extension" tool rest.

 

http://www.toolpartsdirect.com/cgi-bin/schematic.cgi/delta/46-697/

 

I was turning a bowl and the gouge caught- snapped my tool rest off the post. Got it re-welded but it has never bee the same. There are tremendous pressures on the end of a long tool rest. So keeping the forces as close to the mounting post as possible will reduce the likelihood of failures. 

Lew

Sounds like very sound advice.  I'm thinking I am going to concentrate on the inboard turning before I try anything else.

I agree, safety first.  

 

SQ

 

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It it can't be fixed with glue and sawdust - it's not worth fixing.

LOL  Would love to have an inboard that would accommodate a 15 inch bowl.  What type and size lathe do you have?  Was looking at photos and saw pieces you had turned.  Very nice!  What are you working on right now?  Have you seen those bowl lathes?  

 

SQ


Jari Kilpi said:

Or do what I did, buy bigger lathe, and after awhile that wasn't big enough so I bought even bigger. Now it's just right size for me. No need for outboard turning, inside is big enough.   

SQ said:

Sounds like very sound advice.  I'm thinking I am going to concentrate on the inboard turning before I try anything else.

I agree, safety first.  

 

SQ

 

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It it can't be fixed with glue and sawdust - it's not worth fixing.

That is one GORGEOUS machine!   It seems we always need just one more thing for the shop.  lol  I would like to purchase the riser blocks for my band saw as it would increase the cutting height up to 12 inches. Currently it only goes up to 6 inches.  Another item on my wish list.    Keep those photos coming. 

 

SQ

Jari Kilpi said:

Greetings SQ

 

My lathe is made here in Australia, Woodfast model 910, Woodfast lathe

My current projects are natural edge bowl from Camphor Laurel wood, then I got big Jacaranda fruit bowl under work, It was that big it didn't fit to lathe 1st, had to keep cutting it smaller and smaller to fit it, rough turned it to about 10 cm, which is about 3,9 inches thick, it was so green I had water just flying off, it's been sitting now about 6 months, I took other 4 cm off, left it for other month, now it getting final shape and thickness. Love the wood, easy to work with.

Next equipment I'm looking to buy is much bigger bandsaw, makes like easier when working with logs and turning natural edge bowls.

 

Let the shawing fly so back to shed.... (Not today, too much Rum last night  )

 

Jari

SQ said:

LOL

 Would love to have an inboard that would accommodate a 15 inch bowl.  What type and size lathe do you have?  Was looking at photos and saw pieces you had turned.  Very nice!  What are you working on right now?  Have you seen those bowl lathes?  

 

SQ

Jari Kilpi said:

Or do what I did, buy bigger lathe, and after awhile that wasn't big enough so I bought even bigger. Now it's just right size for me. No need for outboard turning, inside is big enough. 

 

SQ said:

Sounds like very sound advice.  I'm thinking I am going to concentrate on the inboard turning before I try anything else.

I agree, safety first.  

 

SQ

 

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It it can't be fixed with glue and sawdust - it's not worth fixing.

Here is a recent one I turned.  I cut out two bowls on the scroll saw.  One made from plain maple.  The other bowl made from edge grain laminated pieces of maple.  Each bowl was cut using the same rings sizes, and cutting angle.  I mixed and matched the rings, and here is one of the bowls before it was turned and after it was turned. 

I haven't tried my outboard yet either.  Right now just using the inboard which is 14 inches.  Will need to get some additional parts for the outboard before I can use it.   I love turning!  This is so much easier than how I use to make bowls.

 

I bought a handy dandy  2inch Grex air sander that has a 3 inch and 5 inch extension for getting into the bowls.  Had to upgrade our air compressor to a 60 gallon Husky to accommodate the sander.  This sander is a lot easier to use on the lathe than sand paper.  

 

SQ

 

 

 

Arlin Eastman said:

SQ

Looks like your question has been answered.  I think you are doing well with the segmented work.  Have you started adding colors or patterns yet?

Turning outboard is somthing I have been wanting to do, however, the Delta 46-460 I have turns up to 12 1/4 so that is good for now.

Arlin

glad to see you are getting some turned. I was wondering what had happened to you. I was keeping the lumber shop locked since I thought you might be on your way down here. LOL

 

Looking good and yes the power sanders are the way to go. Bowls look great.

 

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John Moody
John Moody Woodworks
http://www.johnmoodywoodworks.com

ROFL  I could use some of your fine lumber.  Yes, I am in the shop every chance I get.  If I didn't have to work for a living, I might never come out of the shop - and I'm not kidding.    Turning these bowls is truly my new passion.  Here is another another bowl - 10inch maple. Finish is USP grade mineral oil and beeswax which I cook up myself.  A great recipe I got from a wooden toy maker.  Right now I have a 13 1/2 inch bowl on the lathe which I plan to finish this weekend.  I still have some bowls around here yet to turn, and also some bowls that I sanded on the tilting spindle sander that I plan to put on the lathe and make perfectly symmetrical.  As soon as I run out of these projects, you better keep an eye on your lumber - since I will be in the market for some.  

 

SQ

John Moody said:

glad to see you are getting some turned. I was wondering what had happened to you. I was keeping the lumber shop locked since I thought you might be on your way down here. LOL

 

Looking good and yes the power sanders are the way to go. Bowls look great.

 

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John Moody
John Moody Woodworks
http://www.johnmoodywoodworks.com

 

Glad to see you are getting some time to turn those wonderful bowls.

 

Best of luck.

 

 

SQ said:

ROFL  I could use some of your fine lumber.  Yes, I am in the shop every chance I get.  If I didn't have to work for a living, I might never come out of the shop - and I'm not kidding.    Turning these bowls is truly my new passion.  Here is another another bowl - 10inch maple. Finish is USP grade mineral oil and beeswax which I cook up myself.  A great recipe I got from a wooden toy maker.  Right now I have a 13 1/2 inch bowl on the lathe which I plan to finish this weekend.  I still have some bowls around here yet to turn, and also some bowls that I sanded on the tilting spindle sander that I plan to put on the lathe and make perfectly symmetrical.  As soon as I run out of these projects, you better keep an eye on your lumber - since I will be in the market for some.  

 

SQ

John Moody said:

 

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It it can't be fixed with glue and sawdust - it's not worth fixing.

Thanks.  I'm much happier with the results since I've been turning the bowls. We plan to install the 60 gallon Husky air compressor this weekend so I can get the Grex 2 inch bowl sander up and running.  Should make sanding these bowls even easier.

SQ


John Moody said:

 

Glad to see you are getting some time to turn those wonderful bowls.

 

Best of luck.

 

 

SQ said:

 

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It it can't be fixed with glue and sawdust - it's not worth fixing.

Greetings SQ

 

Very nice pieces....

SQ said:

Here is a recent one I turned.  I cut out two bowls on the scroll saw.  One made from plain maple.  The other bowl made from edge grain laminated pieces of maple.  Each bowl was cut using the same rings sizes, and cutting angle.  I mixed and matched the rings, and here is one of the bowls before it was turned and after it was turned. 

I haven't tried my outboard yet either.  Right now just using the inboard which is 14 inches.  Will need to get some additional parts for the outboard before I can use it.   I love turning!  This is so much easier than how I use to make bowls.

 

I bought a handy dandy  2inch Grex air sander that has a 3 inch and 5 inch extension for getting into the bowls.  Had to upgrade our air compressor to a 60 gallon Husky to accommodate the sander.  This sander is a lot easier to use on the lathe than sand paper.  

 

SQ

 

 

 

Arlin Eastman said:

SQ

Looks like your question has been answered.  I think you are doing well with the segmented work.  Have you started adding colors or patterns yet?

Turning outboard is somthing I have been wanting to do, however, the Delta 46-460 I have turns up to 12 1/4 so that is good for now.

Arlin

 

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It it can't be fixed with glue and sawdust - it's not worth fixing.

 

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Keep on turning, if not today, do it tomorrow.