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What are your thoughts on this new woodworking tool?

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The Pro Cut 34 and Pro-Cut 50 are easy to use, provide professional results and are available at an affordable price. The patent-pending design of the Pro-Cut is a true all-in-one precision wood working tool that is sure to exceed your expectations. I am hoping the fine folks of the Patriot Woodworkers will take a few minutes to watch the short demonstration video and pass along any comments. Thanks everyone.


Roger

I would be happy to watch the video but there is no video link in your post.

Hi Allen


You can watch the video from Rogers profile page. There is a link there. Click here to watch it.


 



Wayne Mahler
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oops sorry Allen.  The video is posted on this web site or you can go to www.torontotool.com

I went and watched the videos of the Pro Cut 50 and the Master Builder. Very impressive tool and very versitile. It appears to be very well built and thought out and would work well in many shops (mine included). For me in my shop (3 car garage 30'w x 20' deep) I have all of my major tools on mobile bases so that when not in use they are stored on the single car side of the garage allowing parking for my wife's car. Having the Pro Cut 50 on the contractor base would work well and could be folded up and stored when not in use. One negative that I saw is that when using the circular saw or router by hand and not locked into base, there is possibility for movement as you are physically having to hold the saw/router against the fence having to push in 2 directions at the same time. An attachment/base for the saw/router so that it would ride in a groove so that you would not have the chance of pulling the saw/router away from the fence and only have to push in a single direction would be much more stable and give more precise cuts. For my sheet goods cutting and routing that are too large to comfortably handle on my table saw I lay out my sheet goods on top of a table or workbench with a piece of hard foam insullation between the bench and the sheet goods. I have a set up with 2 clamp on rails/fences (100" straight and a 60" with a pivot head for cross cutting and angles) that have bases that will attach to the base of my circular saw and router that rides in a groove on the rail/fence so that it cannot move side to side. I get just as accurate cuts this way as I do on my table saw. Price for the system was $130 at a wood working show a year or so back and it works great for me.


 


The only down side for the Pro Cut 50 is that the cost is fairly high with a cost of about $1500 (is that US or Canadian?) for a Pro cut 50 set up and Contractor stand plus the rip and router attachments (might as well buy all the attachements). At that price you are getting out of the range of most home woodworkers. For someone who is doing woodworking more as a business, then it would be a good investment that could be recouped in a short period of time. 

Roger Hamblen said:


oops sorry Allen.  The video is posted on this web site or you can go to


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Thanks Allen,


This is excellent feedback and I greatly appreciate it. You make a number of good points. The Pro-Cut 50 and Pro-Cut 34 both have quick release saw attachments that slide in the grove of the top clamp and are included with each machine. In talking to a number of people, they preferred to use only the cut guide with no additional attachment. I have to admit, I completed a number of projects, including the cabinets shown in the video, without the use any additional cross cut saw/router attachments and the cuts were perfect.  I can certainly understand your concern for a need for a guide and it was a primary design requirement until I started using the Pro-Cut. The material is firmly clamped in the clamp and the tool is so steady and stable that I found it was just as accurate and faster to cut without the use of an additional guide. Maybe I should have shown a short segment in the video with the use of the guide.


One thing I never wanted to do was compromise on quality of product or material.  I wanted it manufactured in North America so quality of build was not an issue (we have all seen the inconsistency of quality in some imported products).  When I go to the big box building supply stores I see contractor saws for $700.00 and $800.00 that look to me like they are not even worth carrying home. A half way decent table saw is around $1,500 but that’s all it is, a table saw. I thought, if I could supply a quality tool that can provide all the functions of a quality table saw, a large panel miter saw and a router table capable of working with both small and large sheets such as cabinet sides and have all of this in an easy to move portable package then I would have a good useful tool. After using the Pro-Cut for many projects, I will say that the Pro-Cut not only met my expectations but far surpassed them.


With regard to the price, the package price coupled with the Patriot Woodworker club discount would make the complete package a total of $990. The total package includes the Pro-Cut 50, Pro-Cut 50 contractor stand, complete rip cut kit and 2 router guides. The Pro-Cut provides all functions of a quality table saw, miter saw and router table combined. Most home shops don’t have the room for all these individual tools and not to mention a price tag of about $3,000 to $4,000 for these tools if purchased separately.


It sounds like you have a lot of experience with woodworking and I greatly appreciate your feedback Allen. If you think of anything further, please let me know.  I always believed that products can only improve with good feedback such as yours.


Allen Worsham said:


I went and watched the videos of the Pro Cut 50 and the Master Builder. Very impressive tool and very versitile. It appears to be very well built and thought out and would work well in many shops (mine included). For me in my shop (3 car garage 30'w x 20' deep) I have all of my major tools on mobile bases so that when not in use they are stored on the single car side of the garage allowing parking for my wife's car. Having the Pro Cut 50 on the contractor base would work well and could be folded up and stored when not in use. One negative that I saw is that when using the circular saw or router by hand and not locked into base, there is possibility for movement as you are physically having to hold the saw/router against the fence having to push in 2 directions at the same time. An attachment/base for the saw/router so that it would ride in a groove so that you would not have the chance of pulling the saw/router away from the fence and only have to push in a single direction would be much more stable and give more precise cuts. For my sheet goods cutting and routing that are too large to comfortably handle on my table saw I lay out my sheet goods on top of a table or workbench with a piece of hard foam insullation between the bench and the sheet goods. I have a set up with 2 clamp on rails/fences (100" straight and a 60" with a pivot head for cross cutting and angles) that have bases that will attach to the base of my circular saw and router that rides in a groove on the rail/fence so that it cannot move side to side. I get just as accurate cuts this way as I do on my table saw. Price for the system was $130 at a wood working show a year or so back and it works great for me.

 

The only down side for the Pro Cut 50 is that the cost is fairly high with a cost of about $1500 (is that US or Canadian?) for a Pro cut 50 set up and Contractor stand plus the rip and router attachments (might as well buy all the attachements). At that price you are getting out of the range of most home woodworkers. For someone who is doing woodworking more as a business, then it would be a good investment that could be recouped in a short period of time. 


Roger Hamblen said:

oops sorry Allen.  The video is posted on this web site or you can go to




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Hello all


I would like to  thank Allen for his feedback on the Pro-Cut. I would also appreciate any comments from others if you have a few minutes to watch the Pro-Cut video on this web site or you can go to the Toronto Tool web site. www.torontotool.com


Thanks everyone


Roger

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Any further thoughts on the Pro-Cut series? I value the opinion of all the great folks of The Patroit Woodworkers. You can see the video on this site or www.torontotool.com


Thanks everyone


Roger

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Good News,


As a result of volume purchases and a manufacturing deal we will be able to lower the prices on the Pro-Cut 50 and Pro-Cut 34.


New prices will be listed on our web site shortly.


To give some insite. The complete Pro-Cut 34 including the complete rip cut kit, 2 router stops and the shop stand, constructed with high quality locking wheels, will be available for $797.81 as a complete kit.  As always, all Patroit Woodworker Club members will also receive a further club discount on this price.


 


The complete Pro-Cut 50 including the rip cut kit, 2 router stops and contractor stand will sell for $894.02 as a complete kit. 


As always, all Patroit Woodworker Club members will also receive a further club discount on this price.


 The Pro-Cut 50 kit was selling for almost $1,500 for the complete kit.


We are pleased to pass along this huge savings to all members of the Patroit woodworkers.


The old prices are still listed on our web site and will be changed shortly but I wanted to pass along the good news to club members beforehand. www.torontotool.com


 


As always, best regards


Roger

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Hello everyone,


I am very interested in your thoughts on our new Pro-Cut 34 and Pro-Cut 50. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.


You can view the short demo video here on the Patriot Woodworker or visit our web site www.torontotool.com. I am looking forward to your comments good or bad.


Thanks everyone


Roger

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