The Wadkin JY bobbin sander is a great machine and was supplied from green lane works standard with a 3.5"X9.5" bobbin in the 40s/50s. You could could special order 3 other bobbins in 5", 2.5" or 2" all 9.5" long. These steel drums you would load your own flat paper and the device works extremely well. My machine only came with the 3.5 and so i want to come up with a way to fit other sizes. Finding OEM bobbins would be like finding a piece of straw in a stack of needles. these thing are as rare as hens teeth.

The JY is a fixed spindle 1 1/4" and that is why wadkin's smallest bobbin is only 2". it would be nice to have smaller ones. Some of the solutions to fitting bobbins is to turn the shaft down and use rubber drum from new bobbin sander. Most are 3/4" ID and this would work but would leave the shaft not as strong as wadkin intended the shaft to be. the rubber drums as not cheep ether and cost a good chunk of cash to out fit my machine. I did not want to go this way and lose the use of my only OEM self load bobbin. Reaming the rubber drums or having them made with an 1 1/4" bore is costly too and was out side what i wanted to spend. 

Here is what I came up with and it may help those who find that they are in need of bobbin's for there sander and want to roll there own.

Its starts with what we call in Canada cow mat(1/2" rubber mat for the dairy industry). 

I set the drill press up with a 1 1/4" bit and drilled the ID and cut the OD large on the band saw. you need 2 disks per bobbin size you are making .

You need a mandrel to hold the disks on the lathe That is the same ID as the drum you are making and just undersized to add box tape and paste wax to so wood glue will not stick. The idea here is to make drums in wood and have the two rubber disk grabs the paper when the bolt is tightened .

The core I made of Baltic birch grade AAA-BB . Ii glued up layers before drilling the core.

 

I use a bushing on the mandrel that sticks out past the end to glue the section together on the lathe. I do not glue the rubber disks in yet until I have turned down the core close to size. The mandrel has a shoulder on the drive side so a piece of wood between the tail stock clamps up the work.

 

I drilled a taped set screws inthe bushing to hold the core on the mandrel and I set them when I am ready to spin the core. I take the pressure block out of the tail stock and set the live center. the Wadkin RS cross slide is great for this but you do not need it.

I turn the core down to just over size and wthen I am ready to glue in the rubber disks. I tried many glues but by far the best was the band saw tire glue I had left over from my Bursgreen BZB Band saw rebuild.

 

I use the mandrel to clamp it up again but do not set the bushing set sewers until the glue is dry. then let of the pressure on the rubber and set the bushing screws to hold the core and finish spinning.you don not want to compress the rubber when you tune to final finish.
I sand to my final fit . you just want the paper to just slip on.

I was able to make sizes from 1 1/2" to 4" at 1/2" apart. I think i will make 3 of each size so i can have 3 grits for each bobbin size. On a week end I could make 10 of theses.

thanks for looking

jack

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Now that's pretty darned cool!

 

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Gene
'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

Really well done Jack. Great fix. bob

 

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Bob Kloes
www.bobkloes.com

Cool!!

Now that is just plain genius.

 

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John Moody
John Moody Woodworks
http://www.johnmoodywoodworks.com

Jack,

            I think the JY is one of the nicest spindle sanders I've seen. The only reason I don't have one is that I picked up a Kindt Collins with two complete sets of spindles a few years back. I've become so accustomed to it that I can't come up with any reason to replace it. I like what you did with the spindles. I'm going to give this a try for my Wyson & Miles 303 (disk & spindle). It uses the same setup as the JY. I only got one spindle with it.

 

Now tell me about the RM.

-Arthur

Arthur

 

I am afraid i need your help with this one. some real machining? there is one bolt stud missing in the head and i am suspect of the others. it has no motors b/c is was 25 hzs and the PO ridged up some SPOB motors. I found a wadkin head motor and am still looking for the drive.it does have the pattern table and came with the head wrench. I will post a thread here. 

funny thing is it was made just before yours with a test number of 2039.

jack

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Arthur said:

Jack,

            I think the JY is one of the nicest spindle sanders I've seen. The only reason I don't have one is that I picked up a Kindt Collins with two complete sets of spindles a few years back. I've become so accustomed to it that I can't come up with any reason to replace it. I like what you did with the spindles. I'm going to give this a try for my Wyson & Miles 303 (disk & spindle). It uses the same setup as the JY. I only got one spindle with it.

 

Now tell me about the RM.

-Arthur

OK, being new to this art of restoration, I am now searching knowledge on terminology. Jack, what is SPOB and PO? Thanks!


tool613 said:

Arthur

 

I am afraid i need your help with this one. some real machining? there is one bolt stud missing in the head and i am suspect of the others. it has no motors b/c is was 25 hzs and the PO ridged up some SPOB motors. I found a wadkin head motor and am still looking for the drive.it does have the pattern table and came with the head wrench. I will post a thread here. 

funny thing is it was made just before yours with a test number of 2039.

jack

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Arthur said:

 

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John Morris
The Patriot Woodworker

John 

 

in the restoration world there are the ones that have not reach 3 phase nirvana. we call theses people SPOB ( single phase office boys) its not insulting  in any way just a state of enlightenment.

 

PO is easy as all Old machines have them. (Previous owner).

 

jack

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John Morris said:

OK, being new to this art of restoration, I am now searching knowledge on terminology. Jack, what is SPOB and PO? Thanks!

tool613 said:

 

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John Morris
The Patriot Woodworker

Jack,

          Whatever you need. I was thinking of swapping the head out on mine. I've got some NOS Invicta planer heads laying around. I was thinking of having one corrugated so I could use my shaper tooling on the RM. THe knives for these machines are so expensive that corrugated knife stock looks like a bargain.  I'm only using my RM as a jointer right now. The planer works fine. I just really like the Whitney 105.

 

-Arthur


tool613 said:

Arthur

 

I am afraid i need your help with this one. some real machining? there is one bolt stud missing in the head and i am suspect of the others. it has no motors b/c is was 25 hzs and the PO ridged up some SPOB motors. I found a wadkin head motor and am still looking for the drive.it does have the pattern table and came with the head wrench. I will post a thread here. 

funny thing is it was made just before yours with a test number of 2039.

jack

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Arthur said: