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out with the new in with the old

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Lasts year I restored a rare 1942 Bursgreen band saw from England. It was to replace my Aggazini from Italy that was 40 years newer. The problem was I did not have 3 phase in the shop set up and so it sat in the rat hole for a year used.


IMG_0328-2.jpgMy old boss from 25 years ago was at the shop and i told him i was selling the agazzini and he said he wanted it. Out it when for $1200. This is the saw sam malloff used to make his chairs   and a very nice saw. 


013-9.jpgI found a VFD to run the Bursgreens saws 2 hp 3 phase motor for $50 on the list and so it was time for the move. I put the VFD in a old disconnect box on the wall next to the saw. and added a twist lock plug with a cat5 clable for the switching control. this will let me use it for my shaper too .


i cut a little window out of thwe door to see the LED display.


004-29.jpg005-30.jpg next post please


 


 


 

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Lasts year I restored a rare 1942 Bursgreen band saw from England. It was to replace my Aggazini from Italy that was 40 years newer. The problem was I did not have 3 phase in the shop set up and so it sat in the rat hole for a year unused.


IMG_0328-2.jpgMy old boss from 25 years ago was at the shop and I  told him I was selling the agazzini and he said he wanted it. Out it when for $1200. This is the saw sam malloff used to make his chairs   and a very nice saw. 


013-9.jpgI found a VFD to run the Bursgreens saws 2 hp 3 phase motor for $50 on the list and so it was time for the move. I put the VFD in a old disconnect box on the wall next to the saw. and added a twist lock plug with a cat5 cable for the switching control. this will let me use it for my shaper too .


i cut a little window out of the door to see the LED display.


004-29.jpg005-30.jpg


I had finished this a year or so ago and for handle i had used off the shelf plastic ones . I have come to believe that handle are like the jewelry of the machines. I like the look of the british rose wood infill planes with brass and steel. so I made all new handles from scratch


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I also wanted to add a balance for the upper gulides so i soldered up a peace  of copper waste pipe  and filled it with sand.


works great and now the  guild are very easy to adjust.


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010-16.jpgI think it looks OK what do you think?


 


jack


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I like the handle Jack. And the either of the saws would be a nice addition anywhere. Glad you got the three phase going though.


 



John Moody
John Moody Woodworks
http://www.johnmoodywoodworks.com

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thanks John there a lot of fun to make


 


jack


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Jack.....very well again as usual. I really like the handles. I need some for my Oliver 232 for the fence hold downs. You have given me some ideas, so consider it stolen. I think the weight is awesome too. I am assuming its just an assist for lifting. Is it heavy enough to lift the guides just by loosening the hold down for them?


 



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Yes Ken


What i did was put the guild assemble  on the scale and weigh it (10 lbs). then cut a piece of pipe to hold 10lbs of sand. you can move it with a finger now.


 


jack


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Ken Rasmussen said:


Jack.....very well again as usual. I really like the handles. I need some for my Oliver 232 for the fence hold downs. You have given me some ideas, so consider it stolen. I think the weight is awesome too. I am assuming its just an assist for lifting. Is it heavy enough to lift the guides just by loosening the hold down for them?


 



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Jack,


Looks Ok.


 


Looks more than OK, you've simply done it again. The handles and counter-balance weight are really nice touches.


 


Out with the New, In With the Old School Tools


 


Larry


 

Thanks Jack for showing, I never get tired of looking at the OWWM's here. The only problem is I get stressed looking at them, because I want to do that! What craftsmanship Jack, just an absolute joy to see, thank you sir. And that's a lot of work posting a photo essay Jack, great job.113.gif


 



John Morris
The Patriot Woodworker

Very nice job on the restore. I like your copper pipe . Nice job on the handles too. Thanks for the pictures. bob


 



Bob Kloes
www.bobkloes.com

Jack....I could have sworn that you had 3ph in the shop. Is the Wadkin table saw single phase? It runs so smooth I would have guessed it was 3ph


 



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Ken


when i did the restore all i had in the shop was a RPC on a dolly that you would roll around. It is now all hard wired in and i could have run the bandsaw on it. the thing with the band saw was that i run it for short periods and did not want to have the RPC on just for short runs. so the VFD was the way i wan't to go . also a year ago i did not have the big 30" wadkin DR band saw so i had 3 bandsaw at the shop. the Bursgreen was going to go to the Mill shop but that changed when the 30" wadkin joinded the heard.I like the power from a VFD over a RPC when ever i can but for high voltage (600) the RPC is the way to go.the RPC is for my big motors 10 HP to 5HP, Right now i am running the 5hp PK. 4HP stenner and the wadkin 30" 5HP  as will as a few small motor machines   on the RPC.The Wadkin 26" jointer planer will be the largest at 7.5hp for the head and 1HP for the feed. Tho i think i will only run the head motor on the RPC and feed motor on a VFD for reasons you can guess.


 


 


 


jack


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Ken Rasmussen said:


Jack....I could have sworn that you had 3ph in the shop. Is the Wadkin table saw single phase? It runs so smooth I would have guessed it was 3ph


 



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I see said the blind man...I am considering either building or purchasing an RPC but am wondering if its the right choice. My table saw, Oliver 232, and drill press, PM 1150A, are my only 3ph machines at this time but I want to convert my lathe, Delta 1460, to 3ph. I know that the RPC would open up a whole new world in machines for me but, I am limited on space. I would like to have a better and possibly larger planer, to replace the DeWalt lunchbox screamer. I am thinking a PM100 or possibly 18" would be nice but given the prices of VFD's to run anything over 3hp is pretty much cost prohibitive. Hence my thoughts for the RPC. I do have a 1725rpm, 10hp, 3ph for an idler but am electrically challenged enough I dont feel comfortable in building my own.


 



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