I was out again in the shop today just having a blast getting into my ol DP.  Before I went too far I wanted to get an idea on the run out at the chuck. I chucked a long socket in lieu of a calibrated blank, I figure a socket is pretty dang close to straight. And with my dial indicator and mag base I set about to find out what we are seeing here. As you can see I started out at zero. No the pic is not upside down, just the dial indicator, please don't ask, it just ended up that way! The feeler is to the right of the indicator up against the chucked socket. The mag base is sitting on the press table.

After a full turn of the chuck I get about .006 thousandths run-out at its highest point.

Not bad for a 70 plus year old press. I am debating on whether I should replace the quill bearings or not. I can be happy with 6 thousandths.

I then started to remove the upper quill gear cover, (Pardon my ignorance on proper terminology)

Photo above, bearing and bushing still in top cover.

Photo below, removing the spring assembly that helps the quill recover in the up position.

Above Photo: The spring adjuster sitting on the press table after I removed it from the side of the press in photo above this one, I am really careful not to let the spring spring out of the cover, I just have a feeling it would be a pita to put back in. I secured a piece of tape over it after this photo was taken.

Once the spring adjuster was removed, it allowed the quill to drop with out resistance. I had to drop the table down as far as it could go to allow room for the quill to drop out from the bottom and out of the way.

I had to soak the column with WD-40 to get the table to budge down, I whacked it a few times with the rubber mallet to get it to loosen up. I need to be really careful, even cast iron will crack with a rubber mallet. Once the table dropped, the quill came down and out of the head.

I have a sinking feeling though, that I should have removed the chuck before the quill. I would have had more leverage to work on the chuck while it was still in the press. Not too mention, I can't find a way to remove the chuck even, and I don't know if I should replace the chuck or not.

And here we go, a semi taken apart Walker Turner. Not much left but to remove the main cast iron components off the main column and get ready to clean them up and paint.

Thanks for following me along so far on my very first restoration. This is addictive, I will be doing more in the future for sure. I have made up my mind, my shop will eventually hold all old machinery. Made in America, heavy metal, it's going to be quite the journey.

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John Morris
The Patriot Woodworker

Looks like good progress. The runout is good but I think I would still replace the bearings, if for peace of mind if nothing else. As for removing the chuck it looks to be a Jacobs 33taper. A couple of wedges placed above it should do the trick. It would have been much easier to remove it while the spindle assembly was still in the press but such is life. There is a few good articles on the Jacobs chucks on owwm. http://wiki.vintagemachinery.org/JacobsChuckRebuild.ashx

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Way to go John

You are now an addicted member of the OWWM group!

Nice start on your Heavy Metal collection, I'm sure you will aquire more.

 

Regards,

Larry

How did you remove the chuck? What was it a Taper or threaded mount? If taper which taper?

I  would like to replace my chuck and have the same drill press.

Cliff, I have not removed the chuck yet!!! It was a bear and I had to set it aside where it still sits because "other stuff" came up. I really need to get back on it and get her put back together, but I do still need to remove that danged chuck!

Help Larry!!!

Cliff said:

How did you remove the chuck? What was it a Taper or threaded mount? If taper which taper?

I  would like to replace my chuck and have the same drill press.

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The Patriot Woodworker
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John and Cliff,

Unless the chuck is damaged, I would work on it on the spindle. I have read were people have had problems with getting them to stay on after having removed them. I'll have to look at the manual, but I believe the spindle/chuck can be removed from the quill as an assembly. I know it can be on the Delta drill presses. I have six different spindles for my DP 220 14".

Larry

Old Woodworking Machinery Forum Host

John and Cliff,

An explanation for removing the Jacobs 6A chuck is in this pdf file.

http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/detail.aspx?id=386

Larry

Old Woodworking Machnery Forum Host

 

Best of luck with that.

I would love to see your shop when completely done.

Nothing like seeing great and old machineries stored in one sphere.

Keep the pictures coming.

I will be following for sure!

Thanks Larry!

Larry Buskirk said:

John and Cliff,

An explanation for removing the Jacobs 6A chuck is in this pdf file.

http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/detail.aspx?id=386

Larry

Old Woodworking Machnery Forum Host

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John Morris
The Patriot Woodworker
Proud Supporter of Wounded Warrior Project and Homes For Our Troops

Claude, thanks for the encouragement man! It's a long way off but I'd sure like to see Made in the USA heavy metal populating our shop! Great to have you here sir!

Claude Bradford said:

 

Best of luck with that.

I would love to see your shop when completely done.

Nothing like seeing great and old machineries stored in one sphere.

Keep the pictures coming.

I will be following for sure!

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John Morris
The Patriot Woodworker
Proud Supporter of Wounded Warrior Project and Homes For Our Troops

Larry Buskirk said:

John and Cliff,

An explanation for removing the Jacobs 6A chuck is in this pdf file.

http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/detail.aspx?id=386

From the drawings it appears that if your problem is not the chuck but a bent arbor then you SOL  unless you can source a spindle because it looks to be integral to the spindle.

Cliff,

From what I see, it is listed as both a Quill and Spindle assembly and a breakdown of the parts that make it up. If you have a wobble, it could be a number of things causing it. Bad bearings, a bent spindle, a jaw in the chuck that is not lined up with the other jaws. It could also be that someone had the chuck off the spindle at one time and didn't get it reseated properly on the spindle.

Larry

Old Woodworking Machinery Forum Host

Hey guys, I just had a flash back on the work I did on the press up until now, and I went out and checked my carefully cataloged parts and lo and behold, I did have the chuck removed!!!! See the pdf that Larry provided jarred my memory and I remember twisting loose the lock collar and the chuck slid off with a little persuasion, so my chuck is off! I just plain ol forgot!!!

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John Morris
The Patriot Woodworker
Proud Supporter of Wounded Warrior Project and Homes For Our Troops

John,

Flashbacks?

Larry

Old Woodworking Machinery Forum Host

Oh I know  exactly what caused the wobble.   It was an exciting  moment.  

The Chuck Jaw out of place is a very good candidate. 

Yep, but this time they were good ones! And real!

Larry Buskirk said:

John,

Flashbacks?

Larry

Old Woodworking Machinery Forum Host

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John Morris
The Patriot Woodworker
Proud Supporter of Wounded Warrior Project and Homes For Our Troops