for my garage shop.  I have RIGID 6.50 hp  16 gallon shop vac this I used for dust collection and it has work fairly well until I got the Grizzly table saw.  Every now and  then I'll have get on my hands and knee with vac hose and suck up anywhere  of 5 to 8 inches of sawdust from the inside of table saw cabinet.  So I have been doing a little window shopping.  I'm looking at this thing from Grizzly.  The link is

http://www.grizzly.com/products/1-1-2-HP-Dust-Collector/G1028Z2.

Basically the tools that will be hooked up to it are Grizzly table saw, Grizzly 14' band saw,16 " scroll saw, 9" drill press, router table, Delta 12 1/2 " planer and 6" Delta joiner.   The table saw, router table would be about 12 to 15 feet the collector and the joiner and planer would be about 15 feet from the collector with the band saw, scroll saw and drill press being between the collector and the big dust makers.  Any comments would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Wayne E

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Wayne E

I have a Delta collector that is pretty much the same thing. My longest 4" line is probably 15' total from separator to machine. My setup is such that the blast gates allow all the suction to be directed to one machine at a time. Works pretty good- when I remember to keep the separator empty and the other blast gates closed.

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Lew Kauffman-
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there will always be dust in the saw but as long as the dust collector gets it and doesn't let it build up too bad they all need cleaning once a month.

I've got a HF 1 1/2hp DC with an aftermarket pleated filter  that works well with everything.....jointer, RAS, router, planner...... except for my Griz cabinet saw. There just seems to be too many gaps around the top, tilt, blade height and the vents for the motor. I'd thought about closing up some of these in one way or another to increase the vacuum in the cabinet but rejected them because I worry about motor cooling. The cabinet collects most of the dust and shoveling it out is a good excuse to clean the adjustment mechanisms. I might be wrong about the motor cooling but that's where I'm at.

Pat

Use blastgates and metal piping.  There is a link to an article on www.mountainwoodworker.com that discusses dust collection.  Read it before buying any DC machine.

Save some $$ and get the HF unit. They are identical.

Mine does a good job on every tool EXCEPT the TS. As pat said, too many gaps. 

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Gene
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I'm with Phil on this one.

I found out too late that dust collection for an entire shop is a tricky business - many calculations to keep the head pressure up.  There are several sites/pages that discuss how to setup a dust collection system.

Keep us up to date, John

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Fred
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The tools are part of the equation, but so too is the length of run pipe size  the number and angle of the turns and whether the pipes are corrugated or smooth even the filtration factors in as a load on the system.  

for example: One corner is like an additional 12 feet of ducting in terms of load on the system

Just buying a DC and hoping it''ll do the job is  - - well - -  iffy.  It might, and it might not.

To size the system in order to save money you gotta calculate the CFM you will need at each blast gate and then figure whether the load imposed by the ducting will allow that and of course whether the blower and motor combo can provide you the air flow you need.

I've done my shop for example and I don't think I can do it with much less than 5 HP on a 16" impeller  I would of course prefer to go down to one micron  or smaller for filtration to recycle the air or else I'm just running a dust pump in the shop.

Check out Bill Pentz's website.

Of course there is an alternative to all the math.

Just go big. Buy a big high quality impeller and a big motor and  odds are you'll have your bases covered.

"Of course there is an alternative to all the math.

Just go big. Buy a big high quality impeller and a big motor and  odds are you'll have your bases covered."

Well, said, Cliff

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Fred
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'Soooooo many patterns - sooooo little time'

Charles

Oops.  It did not work.  Sorry.  It this Grizzly model

G1028Z2 1-1/2 HP Dust Collector

Charles Nicholls said:

Sorry the link keeps going to a dead page for me.

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With regard to the gaps in the table saw.  I solved mine with caulk except for where the shafts are for raising and tilting the blade.  I'm working on a couple of solutions for those.  The other thing I've noticed is the the slant of the metal in the "dust box" needed to be increased (used formica for this).  One key note on DC with table saws.  If you don't use the DC every time you turn on the saw, you will get an accumulation of dust that will block the exhaust port which makes the DC useless.

As another note on DC do not get the plastic gates.  Opt for the metal gates that are non-clogging.  That is, the slide has a hole in it and is longer than the other gates. 

After reading what you guys said and the Dust Collection post I decided to hold off buying a DC.  It appears they do just about what my Rigid 16 gallon 6.5 hp shop vac does.  Guess I'll just bite the bullet and scope and vac out the Grizzly table saw with tender loving care.   Thanks for the feed back.  Really appreciate it.

Wayne E

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Wayne E