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Wood veneer bonding?

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I'm in the process of building a couple of jewelry boxes. The lids are made up using a panel that is made from 1/4" Baltic birch plywood that has wood veneer laminated to both sides of the plywood. To bond the  thin veneer to the plywood should I use contact cement or wood glue? Thanks for any assistance you guys may have!




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I think wood glue will be a more permanent solution.




Lew Kauffman-
Wood Turners Forum Host

Time traveler. Purveyor of the world's finest custom rolling pins!

Mike, contact cement seems like a very convenient approach and it can be. But for what your talking about I would stay away from it and go with what Lew suggested, wood glue.


Contact cement at the beginning of the cabinet refacing craze in our country about 15 years ago was widely used as the veneers back then did not have self adhesive. After a while contractors were getting call backs up the yinyang about veneers separating from the cases, the reason? Sun, and heat. Contact cement can be reactivated by heat, it turns into goo, and then the veneer separates. If your jewelry box happens to be sitting on a table, on a summer day with the sun rays shining through the window onto the box, the cement can become elastic and loose it's holding power. I have personally seen this myself, and it was disheartening to say the least. I'll never use contact cement again for anything wood. HOpe this helps.




John Morris
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When I started teaching wood shop the old instructor was using contact cement for veneer so that's how I started doing it.  I can't say that I was ever really impressed with doing it like that, seems like there was always some kind of issue, but maybe it was just the way the kids were handling it and not following directions or getting dust in it or something.  I've used it for countertops and haven't had any problems, but that is a little different.

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Thanks guys for the tips. I also found some info on the net and for the reasons John gave contact cement doesn't sound like the way to go. I'll be using wood glue.


Thanks again!




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This is all good to know as one day soon (?) I may try my hand with this. I used contact cement years ago on a counter top and it worked fine but was the pits to work with.


Wood glue would give you some "wiggle room" and time to align it up.




Harry Brink
Bulldog Woodworking
Montana

do not use wood glue.  Aside from making your veneer want to curl away from the surface it will bleed through most thin veneer and cause problems galore when you try to finish the work.



Use ( in no particular order):


1) hide glue, because it actually pulls things together as it shrinks and doesn't cause finishing problems down the road


http://norsewoodsmith.com/content/hammer-veneering-hide-glue-lessons-learned


here are some U-Tubes on it by this guy: http://www.americanfederalperiod.com/furniture%20home.html




                 -or-


2) urea formaldehyde glue, (plastic resin glue) which is what all the cool kids are using these days.


http://www.djmarks.com/pdf/ureaglue.pdf


http://www.thewoodwhisperer.com/articles/veneer-flattening/



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