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that's and eye opener..

the closing statement says a lot too...

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Thank you for posting. All are true American Heroes in my book as well as all you other guys/gals on this forum who have served.

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Our, truly, greatest generation...however, don't be fooled by all of the descriptions. Mickey Rooney got his Bronze Star for entertaining the troops and not for any combat related activities.

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At 86, I remember virtually everyone  on the list. I remember George Gobel when he was at a roasting with several great comedians saying, " I feel like a pair of brown shoes in a room full of tuxedos." Even remember the old Gene Autry cowboy movies.

These men did what they felt they had to do in the times they lived in.

Edited by It Was Al B

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Yup, kinda hard not to believe they truly were the Greatest Generation.

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We can't make a fair comparison between service during WWII and Iraq/Afghanistan. They are completely different wars with very different politics and agendas. In addition, many men enlisted during WWII because the pay was better than the jobs at home.

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3 hours ago, hatuffej said:

We can't make a fair comparison between service during WWII and Iraq/Afghanistan. They are completely different wars with very different politics and agendas. In addition, many men enlisted during WWII because the pay was better than the jobs at home.

 

this a bit over the top even for you hat..

John said what needed to be said very well....

Edited by Stick486

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1 hour ago, John Morris said:

The point of the PDF was, how undeniably Anti-American Hollywood has become.

 

and those w/ the berating out spoken voices are still here contrary to their promises...

rumor control has it nobody else will take them.. even Canada...

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I, for one, remember most of those folks.  Yes, it was a different time.  That being said, they believed in country.

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9 hours ago, John Morris said:

The point of the PDF was, how undeniably Anti-American Hollywood has become.

Thanks John.

Today's role models are doing a terrible job and it is coming back to haunt us.

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I can't edit out the quote blocks from John and Stick. "Over the top even for me???" It seems that some folks here don't think I respect veterans properly based on my views. Rather than get into a PM, I'l just stay away. Thanks for everything.

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10 minutes ago, hatuffej said:

I can't edit out the quote blocks from John and Stick. "Over the top even for me???" It seems that some folks here don't think I respect veterans properly based on my views. Rather than get into a PM, I'l just stay away. Thanks for everything.

I didn't see your comments over the top at all @hatuffej, I've enjoyed your opinions since you've joined this community, especially coming from a war vet. It's always been a respectful dialogue. Grown men can respectfully agree to disagree, it's always been that way between you and I anyway. 

Thanks hat!

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3 hours ago, hatuffej said:

I can't edit out the quote blocks from John and Stick. "Over the top even for me???" It seems that some folks here don't think I respect veterans properly based on my views. Rather than get into a PM, I'l just stay away. Thanks for everything.

That's what this country is about hatuffej. We can agree to disagree.  I can remember when WW11 started. It was a different time and the situation was quite different. When Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, people were totally shocked. I was 10 years old, but I can remember all  the "older guys to me", lining up to enlist into the service. Our navy had been virtually destroyed and our army was very small. This was a war that, if we had lost, would have ended the free world. England,  Europe  and all of the Pacific would have fallen with us.

The politics of  Viet Nam, Afganistan , Iraque, Syria  create  complex situations, but those who were and are fighting there are  dedicated Americans, serving and willing to die for their country. They deserve the same honor and respect as WW11 vets.

I believe the discussion here isn't about the average American attitude about America and its veterans, but rather, it's about the attitude of those in Hollywood, who can only find fault with what this country about.

I am a veteran of the Korean war era, though I never was assigned  to combat . 

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carried over from another forum...

David Niven wasn't the only British actor in the war. The list includes: Christopher Lee, Denholm Elliott, Alec Guinness, Dirk Bogarde, Harry Andrews, Richard Todd, Anthony Quayle, and Jack Hawkins

And let's not forget our own Julia Child

Child joined the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) after finding that she was too tall to enlist in the Women's Army Corps (WACs) or in the U.S. Navy's WAVES. She began her OSS career as a typist at its headquarters in Washington, but because of her education and experience soon was given a more responsible position as a top secret researcher working directly for the head of OSS, General William J. Donovan.

For a year, she worked at the OSS Emergency Rescue Equipment Section in Washington, D.C. as a file clerk and then as an assistant to developers of a shark repellent needed to ensure that sharks would not explode ordnance targeting German U-boats. In 1944, she was posted to Kandy, Ceylon (now Sri Lanka), where her responsibilities included "registering, cataloging and channeling a great volume of highly classified communications" for the OSS's clandestine stations in Asia. She was later posted to Kunming, China, where she received the Emblem of Meritorious Civilian Service as head of the Registry of the OSS Secretariat. When Child was asked to solve the problem of too many OSS underwater explosives being set off by curious sharks, "Child's solution was to experiment with cooking various concoctions as a shark repellent," which were sprinkled in the water near the explosives and repelled sharks. Still in use today, the experimental shark repellent "marked Child's first foray into the world of cooking..."

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Thanks, Stick. That's very interesting about ms Child. I'll bet there were quite a number of people who were unable to serve in the military who found useful ways to aid the effort as civilians. Rosie the Riveter comes to mind. As well as those like Child who served with government agencies. And, the story of the Bletchly crew that broke Enigma, is fascinating.  All unsung heroes, in my book.

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