Larry Buskirk Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 (edited) Randy, Here's some photos of the scroll saw. Edited November 5, 2018 by Larry Buskirk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Gyes Posted March 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 (edited) Here is a picture of some extras that came with the saw. The molding shapper cutters had been used as I also received three blade covers that had been cut out special for the blades to come up through. There are 10 sets of cutters all in their original boxes. There was a screw with a broken ear attached that I now realize was part of the front trunnion. It is an adjustment screw for table travel limits. DANG! There is a shaper cutter also that is like a router cutter that does not fit anything I have it and a bolt and nut that may go to the saw but remains unidentified at this point. Gosh this it fun! Edited November 5, 2018 by Larry Buskirk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Buskirk Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 (edited) Randy, The three matching molding heads are the first style of Delta molding heads. The heavier steel one is the newer second style Delta molding head. Nice assortment of early molding knives! From your earlier photo of the arbor, and this photo it also looks like you have both sizes of the spacers for doing tennons also. ( I'm missing one ) I was wondering from your earlier photos if the front trunnion was missing a stop or not, but now see that it is. It will not affect the performance of the saw however. As to the other two items I would need different views of them to try to identify them. Without seeing the table inserts they may be original Delta items. There were three different ones available, a standard, a dado, and the molding inserts. Edited November 5, 2018 by Larry Buskirk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Gyes Posted March 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 (edited) Larry- I don't know anything about making tennon's? Are these spacers what you use instead of the smaller ones when using the molding cutters or should these be on the saw now with a regular blade? The table inserts are just home made ones out of plywood. Nothing special there. I will post some more pics of the unknown parts after I clean them up. Thanks for the information on the molding heads. Randy Edited November 5, 2018 by Larry Buskirk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Buskirk Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 (edited) Randy, The thick flat washers are the tennon spacers, they are used between a pair of dado blades to cut tennons. The beveled washers are arbor washers used to hold the blade or the molding heads, they go just behind the nut on the arbor. Edited November 5, 2018 by Larry Buskirk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Gyes Posted March 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 (edited) Larry- The only flat washer I have is a small one the size of the blade washer that is part of the shaft. The bigger washers have a taper on one side like the outer washers. You can see them better since I cleaned them up. The odd ball cutter I have, I also cleaned up. It has a taper in the back end that looks like a morris taper. The cutter threads on to it and has a left hand screw in the end to lock it down. It must be some sort of a router cutter. I also got the stand all pulled apart this morning to clean up and paint. Randy Edited November 5, 2018 by Larry Buskirk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Gyes Posted April 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) Well It's been awhile since I posted an update on my project so I thought I would let everyone know how it is progressing. The saw was completely disassembled and cleaned up. The frame pieces were bead blasted and sanded to remove rough spots. The Heavy casting pieces were scrubbed and wire brushed to clean them up as best I could and masked off to keep the paint off critical areas. Everything was painted and polished up and reassembly is going smoothly. I was able to get some new bearings for it from a local bearing house. The old bearings felt very tight as far as wear goes but turned stiff, I popped out one dust seal and found the grease to be hard caked, I got them spinning free after cleaning out the grease but didn't want to use them without the seals. The table got scrubbed up and painted this past weekend and I sanded and shined up the top surface and will be put on soon. I still haven't decided weather I want to break into the motor to replace the bearings in it or not, but it would make the project look complete with a nice new paint job on it as well. Things are coming along nicely. Randy Edited November 5, 2018 by Larry Buskirk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Buskirk Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) Wow Randy, I guess you will beat me to the finish line after all. I haven't had much time or funds to work on my machines as of late. Yours is looking real nice! It doesn't look like the same saw that you started with! I did manage to score a pair of the swivel handles like yours, and an original square shouldered mitre gauge for mine. Edited November 5, 2018 by Larry Buskirk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Gyes Posted April 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) Thanks Larry This has turned into a fun project! I have more time in it than I expected, and I'm not finished yet but it is fun when you can see them going together, it gives you a little more motivation. I have had enough fun doing it that I can definitely say I will do more of them. Watching you work on things has also has been a motivating factor, you have given me great ideas. I was looking around my shop and see that I have a couple other tools that are old that I have worked on over the years. Some day I will post some pictures, if I ever get the place cleaned up? Randy Edited November 5, 2018 by Larry Buskirk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Buskirk Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) Randy, Redoing the machines is only half the fun. The real enjoyment comes in using the machine that you have redone. It sounds like you appreciate the "Old Timers". I have to admit it is rather addicting redoing the old machines, that and knowing the quality that the old machines have to offer. They may be a little harder to find parts for, but once redone should last another lifetime. They will outlast most of what is now available. Once I get my things organized ( Machines all in one place ) I'll be posting more pictures of my toys, and the accessories I have for them. As for the table saw I have all but a couple of the accessories that were available for it. I'll find them yet! Edited November 5, 2018 by Larry Buskirk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Gyes Posted April 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) The nice thing about this old stuff is that it was made in a time when things were built to last a lifetime or so it seems. If you give these old tools a little love and a roof over their heads they will still be around to pass on to your children. I love the heavy solid build of these old tools. How are you coming on your old Tilty? Pictures? Edited November 5, 2018 by Larry Buskirk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Buskirk Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) Randy, I'll be getting back to working on it tomorrow. I'll be doing the electrolysis method on the castings, I haven't been using the method long enough to let it cook overnight. I started removing the casting lines from the new crank handles getting them ready to polish. I'm waiting for my new old mitre gauge to get here. It was an ebay buy it now listing that was at a price I couldn't pass up. ( less than half what I usually see the square shouldered ones go for ) It's a match for the square shouldered mitre sled that I have for my 1936 Delta 1188 shaper, so will do double duty between the two machines. I've been trying to get caught up on the yard work, with the warm weather the grass went nuts. So I've been doing my first cut with the walk behind mower. I almost forgot how much walking about 2 acres is with a 21" walk behind. But I didn't get the downed branches picked up before the grass hid most of them. I figure if I break a mower better it be the walk behind than the zero turn. Cheaper to replace. I'll be posting pictures of my progress as I go. I'm basically doing three machines at the same time plus trying to get the shop and other things done. I think I had more time when I was working! But now that I am retired I've got the honey do list of things that I kept putting off while I was working. Edited November 5, 2018 by Larry Buskirk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Gyes Posted April 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) That's great Larry- I look forward to seeing your progress. Glad to hear you are finding the parts you need. I had it made with my saw, it was in very good condition and everything cleaned up easily. The frame of the stand was the worst parts I had and the bead blaster pulled off the coats of paint and rust easily. With all the rain we have had my grass is growing like crazy also, I got my front yard mowed in between storms and my back yard is close to a foot high but is too wet to mow right now. Hopefully by this weekend! I wish I was retired I still have a few years to go. Enjoy yourself! Randy Edited November 5, 2018 by Larry Buskirk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Buskirk Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) Randy, I've been collecting my machines for about ten to twelve years now, and I'm finally getting around to redoing them. Some were users when I got them, others like the scroll saws were basically parts machines that I used the parts to assemble a working machine. Some parts are harder to find than others so I end up making or adapting parts to make them functional. The tablesaw started as just the basic saw, and is probably the machine that I've spent the most on. I've managed to aquire most of the accessories for it . It was also the first Delta machine that I acquired. I've been in about the same boat with the lawn as far as rain keeping me from getting it done. My grass is probably about 10" high where I haven't gotten to yet. I'm down to having to get about 1/2 acre mowed for it's first cut of the season. Edited November 5, 2018 by Larry Buskirk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Gyes Posted April 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 (edited) I have made some progress on the old saw so I figure it is time for an update. I cleaned up the table surface with a sander and painted the sides and bottom, I spun the guide rails in my lathe to clean the rust off first with sand paper then scotchbrite I pulled the motor apart, cleaned up and painted it and took the outer shields off the bearings to clean out the grease that was hard as dried mud. I didn't replace the bearings but instead just re-greased them and put them back in. They were in good shape other than being caked up. Randy Edited November 5, 2018 by Larry Buskirk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Morris Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 (edited) Randy this saw is looking fabulous man!!! Did you go any further to clean the inside of the motor at all, the windings etc.? I am asking because on my Walker Turner I am debating how far I should go to clean the inside of the motor up. Edited November 5, 2018 by Larry Buskirk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Gyes Posted April 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 (edited) John- My motor was pretty clean inside and just blowing the dust off the windings and washing out the end castings was all I did. I didn't have a clue on how to pull the windings out, they must be just pressed in the housing? After sanding the rust off the outside I did run it under hot water to get the dust off and I wasn't really trying to keep the water off the windings but I didn't just hose it out either. My commutator was worn down somewhat so I turned about .010 off and sanded it to clean it up. The fan was tweaked out of shape so I straightened it out when I had it in the Lathe. Randy Edited November 5, 2018 by Larry Buskirk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Buskirk Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 (edited) Randy, The electrolysis method is not mine, I saw it on other websites and thought I would give it a try. I only brought it up here for members that may not have been aware of it. I also need to find a larger container so I can do my table. I've got pieces of two different machines ready for paint but the weather is not cooperating. It's either raining or to cold for painting outside which is where I have to do my painting. Edited November 5, 2018 by Larry Buskirk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Gyes Posted April 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 (edited) Larry- I know the method is not yours but since you brought it up I have been aching to give it a try. I just couldn't think of anything I could put long tubes into. Would it be possible to use a metal container? The weather here has been terrible as well but I have had some luck in getting things done between rainstorms. Randy Edited November 5, 2018 by Larry Buskirk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Buskirk Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 (edited) Randy, Using a metal container is possible from what I have read. The main problem would be keeping the part you are cleaning from coming in contact with the container causing an electrical short. The other problem is that the container would become part of the sacrificial metal during the process. I'm trying to find one of the hard plastic wading pools for doing my larger items. It's probably not the ideal container but I don't want to have to mix up a large batch of electrolyte. It looks like I won't be painting again today as the temperature is only in the mid 40's here, at least it's not raining. Edited November 5, 2018 by Larry Buskirk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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