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Found a test of sandpaper. CubitronII worked the best. There's some good papers that weren't in the test. I think this guy tests what is readily available at the Big Boxes.
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For everyone who got to know Jim Luley, from Easy Wood Tools, he posted this message to all our turners- Please drop by his post and wish him well. As @Steve Krumanaker said on another site, "he's the nicest friend I never met". Our Patriot Turners- @RustyFN posted a gorgeous cherry bowl he has finished- Rusty tells us a little about the shape and finish in this post- In addition, Rusty is tackling a large walnut bowl! Can't wait to see how this one comes out- Rusty also asked us what type of sanding discs we used. Several of our members offered what they prefer. How about giving Rusty your opinion- @HandyDan got a really good jump on his Christmas ornaments- Check out his post for more images and what he used to create the colored stripes- What’s Coming Up- Click on the images for links to more information and registration. For The Newbies- Handy Dan gave us a look at his batch of Christmas ornaments. Here's a video from Rick Turns demonstrating how to turn another type- Mike Peace posted an video explaining why considering grain direction is important when making a turning. Thinking about learning bowl turning? Watch Richard Raffan turn one from start to finish. Lots of great details. Expand Your Horizons- @RustyFN showed us his rounded bottom bowl. Here's Lyle Jamieson demonstrating turning a similar bowl with a natural edge. Turning a bowl from wet/green wood is mostly a two step process. Rough turn and then allowing the moisture to equalize before finishing. Here is Sam Angelo's process- Last week we mentioned a method of sealing bowls/vessels using milk. This is an update from Debbie Coull Experiment in sealing wood with milk update: IT WORKED !!!! Woohoooooo! The wood surface has a waxy feel. Smooth. Absolutely no odour. The wood was sycamore, but I doubt it matters. Stone age man would have used whatever was the local wood. I will now use this daily and plan to make more. Maybe a cup to see if it adversely flavours tea, but I doubt it. The method the worked was I submerged in milk and simmered for 2 hours, then left in the milk overnight. I used semi skimmed, but I doubt that matters as it's the milk protein (casein) that seals the wood. The next day i rinsed with fresh water and left to dry. It was incredibly heavy now, having almost doubled it's original weight. I left it to dry for a few days. Here is the porridge test (scientific test used by bears). Perhaps others could maybe use this for their food bowls. I'm really pleased this worked, and I would have persevered until I figured it out. Ancient techniques may be lost in time - but they definitely have their merits. For the Instagram Post- https://www.instagram.com/p/CkGFH0-jNhx/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY%3D For Facebook- https://m.facebook.com/groups/229189982049033/permalink/662821255352568/ New Turning Items- More on the Yorkshire grit sanding paste from Easy Wood Tools- Turning a natural edge bowl- like the one shown by Lyle Jamieson, has special challenges. Some reverse chucking methods could damage the fragile natural edge. Ron Brown has a solution. Check out his site at- https://www.ronbrownsbest.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=47&product_id=865 Everything Else- Rick Turns list of YouTube woodturning videos from last week- Safe turning
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Anyone tried this and have any experience to report? Any luck finding it, preferably locally? https://www.amazon.com/3M-Xtract-Multi-Pack-Virtually-88518/dp/B09DFGPSZZ/ref=asc_df_B09DFGPSZZ/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=532565192785&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=768162015597795118&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9015881&hvtargid=pla-1432800603746&th=1
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I did about 5 straight hours of sanding, renovating lawn furniture. The 3M-Cub2 disk finally gave out after 5 hours, the backing turning to lint. I put a junk disk (came with the sander) on it: it lasted about 15 minutes, then started disintegrating. The 3M-C2 face was still abrasive after failure; the cheapo was almost as smooth as the proverbial north-bound baby's south end. Simplifies my purchasing habits!
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Posting this a day early as family commitments will keep me tied up for a while. Our Patriot Turners- Not sure how I missed this post from @Gerald but hope he can forgive me for the oversight. Gerald is still using up some of that pecan wood he got a couple of years ago- In this post he explains a little about his plans for the piece- @forty_caliber was commissioned to turn a bowl from a specific species. He got a good start on it and gave us a glimpse- Forty gave us an insight into how it turned, in this post- @bradleyheathhays posed a question to our forum- actually several question. He is looking for information on various chucks, a coring system, sanding supplies and wood storage. Our members offered several ideas/suggestions. Please see his post and offer any input that would be helpful- What’s Coming Up- More information at- https://awgbvirtual.co.uk/ For The Newbies- A fun little project for using scraps or small branches Some projects can benefit for specialized holder. A short video demonstrating the use of a mandrel- A little more advanced project for the kitchen from Alan Stratton- Expand Your Horizons- A couple of videos with demonstrations by well known turners- Mike Waldt- Robert Sorby- Those of you that do casting, a sweet little box from Carl Jacobson. At the end of the video Mr. Jacobson gives his opinion on a brand of sandpaper. Want a 2 color bowl but you don't do segments? Check this out! New Turning Items- In the above video, Mr. Jacobson offered his opinion on the sandpaper he used. This video shows the testing process on a wide selection of sandpaper/manufacturers- The write-up for the video- https://kmtools.com/blogs/news/the-great-sandpaper-showdown-top-3-sandpapers-for-woodworking-in-2021 Ruth Niles' November newsletter is out. She has a couple of kits More information here- https://nilesbottlestoppers.com/product/unique-blank-kit/# Everything Else- Rick Turns list of YouTube woodturning videos from last week- Been asked to turn some bowls from a walnut tree that had to be taken down. The tree had special meaning to the owners. The pieces supplied had been left outside and were splitting pretty bad but I was able to get some small blanks. Two bowls are rough turned and soaking in soap/water. The third is hopefully destined to become a natural edge bowl. Walnut doesn't hold on to its bark really well and the bark is quite thick. I was hoping this could go from start to finish but that's not going to happen. Shaped the outside and applied CA the cambium area around the piece Hoping to keep the bark in place, I used my Dremel tool and created a circular opening through the bark, into the sap wood. Then loaded the "moat" with CA to soak into the wood. I'll keep this in a plastic bag until I get back to it. It may just be a miserable failure. Time will tell. Safe turning and stay well
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Just realized that yesterday was 55 years ago that I was discharged from the Navy. Left Treasure Island and took a 3 day train ride across this beautiful country. That was the year of the airline strike and there were no commercial flights anywhere. Our Patriot Turners- @AndrewB has been busy casting and turning resin. He showed us his cast blanks and they turned out perfect- Andrew describes the process in this post- From this casting he is turning a "dragon's egg"- More about the process in this post- @smitty10101 would like to do some "inside-out" turnings and asked our gang for some help. He has received several suggestions. If you do these types of turning, please hop over to Smitty's post and chime in- @HandyDan is always making such neat projects for his family. He posted these turnings- Our turners gave him lots of praise for making these! Check out Dan's post at- @forty_caliber has been busy in his workshop! In last Friday's "What's on your weekend agenda", he posted three projects he has in the works. The first is a jam chuck- Next is a bowl made from pecan. Some really beautiful grain in this one- A little more here- And, a handle for one of his turning tools- @Fred W. Hargis Jr Asked our turners for input on turning a pepper mill. Several of our members have turned them and were willing to give him some help. If you have any tips that can make Fred's first attempt any easier, please check out this thread- What’s Coming Up- The AAW reminds us of future events- More information at this link- https://www.woodturner.org/Woodturner/Events/AAW Virtual Events/Woodturner/Virtual-Events/Master-Series-Landing-Page.aspx?_zs=ceDib&_zl=guGi2 Craft Supplies USA has training workshops- More here- https://www.woodturnerscatalog.com/p/205/7317/Workshop-Woodturning-201-with-Stan-Record-August-18-20-2021-(Deposit-Only)?utm_source=csusa&utm_medium=email&utm_content=record&utm_campaign=21-08-workshops Don't forget that S.W.A.T. is live this year- For registration- https://www.swaturners.org/swat-registration-2021.html For The Newbies- Here's a nice little project to add some piazzas to your desk. Mike Peace turns a cable grommet- Not everyone has this tool in their arsenal but it can create some interesting effects. Carl Jacobson turns a beaded bowl using a beading tool- Expand Your Horizons- How do you finish your turnings? Do you like no gloss, some gloss or maximum gloss? For maximum gloss and wear, some turners prefer a CA glue finish. Here's a video from Darryl Jones showing how he uses CA and obtains some spectacular results. New Turning Items- Not so much new, but some sale prices from Woodturners Wonders in conjunction with S.W.A.T. Check their site for prices and more goodies- https://woodturnerswonders.com/ Everything Else- Rick Turns list of YouTube woodturning videos from last week- I mentioned that I had ordered some sanding/finishing products. They arrived yesterday and I had the opportunity to briefly try them. I need to do some experimenting with topcoats other than wax to see how they adhere. From what I've read, most any finish can be applied over the Yorkshire grit. That seems to fly in the face of convention as the sanding paste contains mineral oil and beeswax. I got a can of each Here is Mike Waldt's take on the product Safe turning and stay well
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Walked down to the garden this morning and I see the garlic is starting to poke through the leaf mulch. I guess spring can't be too far away. Don't forget to turn your clocks forward this Saturday night or you will be late to Sunday School! Our Patriot Turners- @Gerald took some time to rearrange his turning area. No easy feat and he will probably looking for where he put stuff for some time to come! Our members all sympathized with the amount of work required to do this. You can see their comments in Gerald's post- @Masonsailor Took a break from his media room redo and played on the lathe. Paul decided to turn a Top and it's a beauty. Our turners had lots of questions and comments about how the hardware and his processes. Check out Paul's post, here- A couple of weeks ago @Bob Hodge was asking about wet sanding techniques and products. Well, Bob made the leap and he tells us about his results. We appreciate Bob's follow-up and giving us his findings- @RustyFN Tried his hand at segmented turning. He said it was his first time at this but judging from the results, I have to wonder . As you might expect, the kudos were flying for this beauty! Rusty also gave us an insight into some of his processes for cutting the segments- In one of our other forums, Rusty shared his lumber score. You know some guys can fall in "it" and come out smelling like a rose. That's our Rusty!! Just look at what he picked up! He already has it broken down into turning blanks! A little more on his good luck here- @AndrewB is working on another pepper grinder. He is turning this one from Bhilwara. It is a beautiful wood and should look awesome on the table! In his post, Andrew also describes a new parting tool he purchased- More about the turning and the new tool here- What’s Coming Up- Click on the above image for the link to more information and registration Click on the above image for the link to registration and other demonstrators. For The Newbies- Several videos on sharpening and using bowl gouges and skew chisels- Expand Your Horizons- Rusty showed us his segmented bowl. Here's a recent video, posted by Woodworker's Journal, on some of the process that can be used to get you started. Resin casting and turning still remains popular. Our sponsor, Woodcraft, posted a tutorial covering products, procedures and safety. Here's the link to the web post- https://www.woodcraft.com/blog_entries/cast-resin-turning?trk_msg=TIMUEHUKAFJ4HB9QSEB8OHLPNG&trk_contact=GSF9RJJ1I54ES16EDIULIN24MG&trk_sid=SJ2JKIDH3D265LJPCLOE09EL80&utm_source=listrak&utm_medium=email&utm_term=WCMAG+Cast+Resin+Turning+-+Free+Article&utm_campaign=Catalog Here is the PDF file- 76_ft_Resin-Turning_FINAL.pdf New Turning Items- It's been difficult to find any new and unique turning products. I guess everyone has scaled back due to the restrictions. The folks at Woodturners Wonders are having a Saint Patrick's Day sale. If you need sandpaper, might be wort looking into- https://woodturnerswonders.com/collections/sales Everything Else- Rick Turns YouTube woodturning videos from last week- Well, my Psychedelic Psteady Rest is finished. I used LED in-line skate wheels and the material seems like it won't mar the turnings and yet is firm enough to keep the turning in place. Right now I am finishing up the Sketchup drawings that I used as plans. Probably not necessary but I need the Sketchup practice. A short video of the first test run. Not quite finished here but you get the idea- IMG_0977.mp4 Safe turning and stay well
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Just in case you are looking for a deal. Got an email today from Lee Valley with a sale on Norton Pro Sand 3X pack of 80 in 80/120/180/220 for $34.50 and free shipping over $30. yes I know not a sponsor but what a deal. I always buy the 3X when I can find as it got scarce a few years ago and now seems is most everywhere again.
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It was finally time to add the sand paper to the drum. Having decided on a Velcro (hook and loop) system, it was off to Super Grit http://www.supergrit.com/ . Their store is only a half an hour drive from here. The hook portion required 5 feet of material. This PSA stuff is 4” wide and is $2/foot. Also bought 3 different grits of the 3” wide loop paper. Their minimum purchase is 3 yards but at between $1.50 to $2.00 a yard it is reasonable. It took about 73” to wrap the drum but I think I can get it down to 72” and be able to get 2 applications from 4 yards. The first step was to clean the PVC drum; started with mineral spirits then denatured alcohol. Next, carefully wrap the hook material, press it down, and allow it to “rest” overnight to get maximum adhesion. (Velcro front, Velcro rear1) The above pictures also show the cross members added to the bottom of the frame for stability; also, another view of the table’s rear support/adjustment bracket as well as the screws holding the table front to the height adjustment. Next, wrap the paper- this is 40 grit. Anchor BOTH ends. We have dust! (dust) All day, I had been working from the rear of the sander. When it came time for the live fire test, I had anchored what I thought to be the leading edge of the paper- Wrong! As soon as the drum got some speed, the paper lifted and re-wrapped backwards around the drum. Fortunately, it did not tear but it did knock off some of the grit. Note to self- anchor both ends. (mistake) Had to buy the hook and loop system.
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on the sanding blocks... Sherwin Williams guy ask me one day some time ago to take this flexible sand paper and give it a try and let them know what I think of it.. It was quick some time before I went to give him my thoughts. So, he said lets hear it...First off I said I haven't been able to wear out that small two sheets you gave me and second though is it works better on uneven surfaces better than anything I have ever used.....period...It is pricey but I don't have to buy it very often. I read where guy had bought a machine to cut sheets of sand paper for his sanding block...I never realized anyone would spend money on something to do a simple task..I was shown this the first day I went to work at a furniture store in 1954 and still do this every day in the shop when using sanding blocks. I have 5 3M sanding blocks I bought around 1960 and 4 of them I still use all the time. One, a flap work out this year. A person will learn to keep different grits available to save time.. fold the paper over then crease it with the back of the rubber block a few times then fold it back over the other way a time or two then lay it on the edge of the table saw an tear it apart. I think this was a young lad on Superjocks wood site who had spent money to get his paper sized?? But I will have to use sizzors for this 3M p220 flexible stuff so there you go.
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I know this is more than likely a silly question. however I am going to ask it anyways, because I am like that lol. When you sand a project how do you know when you are done. do you go from the coarsest grit to the lowest all the time or is it dependent on the wood and its softness? how do you know when it is time to go to a lower grit sandpaper? The reason I am asking is because every time I feel like I have sanded enough and I coat it there always seems to me that I should have sanded it more. Well thanks for those who take the time to answer my question.