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  1. Grandpadave52

    Time Tested Tools

    Stumbled upon this site while researching a Victor smoothing plane. Lots of good information here about dating tools, restoration, etc.
  2. John Morris

    What's On Your Work Bench?

    What's on your work bench? This is the official topic for images and friendly chatter regarding that all important surface, the personal statement of your shop, the steadfast friend we can always count on, the space of your shop that nobody knows better than you, we are talking about the almighty "Work Bench". Submit your images now! That's right, don't clean it up, don't be embarrassed, the messier the better, or if there is nothing on it at all, that is fine too. If you have not touched your bench in years, and you have taken a break from woodworking and have boxes piled on it, we want that image too! All images are welcome. Spirit of Topic This is a Hit-n-Run topic, as you walk past your bench, whip out your camera or smart phone, and snap a shot, load it up here. No need for text explanations if you don't want too. To kick this off, walk out in your shop and snap a picture of your bench surface now, and lets get this topic rolling. This will be an ongoing topic, for you to share images of your bench top today, and every day. Types of benches Some of us have small benches, some of us have big benches, some of us use a space in our dining room, some may have a picnic table they use for a bench, and some of us may have a bench of all benches, the traditional joiners bench, or a beautiful full cabinet shakers bench. No matter what you call your work surface, no matter what your work surface looks like, we want to see images of your bench! Thank you in advance to the participants!
  3. John Morris

    Jim Bode Tools

    Have ya'll heard of Jim Bode Tools, ya, pretty cool. They are advertised in the MWTCA Gristmill. Have fun! https://www.jimbodetools.com/collections/whats-new
  4. steven newman

    A little show & tell?

    On another site, there was a thread about wanting to use a #8 Jointer plane....in making boxes and trays... I made up a little show & tell.....the OP has a #62 ( I think) and was wanting to buy a #8. A #5 Jack plane is roughly the same size as a #62, so.. In my case, this would be the Millers Falls #14 Jack plane sitting beside my Stanley #8.....bit of a size difference? Jack has a 2" wide iron, the #8 has a 2-5/8" wide cutter...Hmmm, maybe if we try a Jumbo Jack instead? An inch or so longer, and the cutter is a 2-3/8" wide....rather an "overweight" Jack plane? So, what would be a little easier to use than the #8? Couple of inches shorter...about a pound or so lighter, and has a 2-3/8" wide cutter..Stanley No. 7c, Type 9 See a difference? Which would YOU want to push around all day long? Well, there IS a shorter version out there.. Stanley called it a small jointer, a Stanley No.6c, type 10....about 6" shorter than the #8, and has a 2-3/8" wide iron... All three are indeed "Jointers" Which would you want to push around all day long....Me..I'd rather push the "Spare Tire" around.. 2 patent date, low knob Stanley #4.....tape is for a better grip. Sweaty hands, after a LONG day, I need the grip. That concludes the Show & Tell, for today...any questions?
  5. steven newman


    Like the title says.. Some have already seen this plane til....those block planes across the top? Are the main users. Half are low angle ones. Some of the "special" planes. The old block plane is great for knocking off excess dried glue.. There is one thing about these wood bodied planes...they weigh a bit less than the iron versions. That red jack? That is my "scrub" plane. The Big Guys. The Millers Falls #14 because it is used as a big smooth plane. A #8, another #7, and a #81 try plane. You need your Wheaties, before a full day of moving these around..... Somewhere in the shop, there is a third spokeshave.....I tend to treat them as planes. The #45....7 planes in one. IF anyone wants to see what is on that shelf.....I might bring them out into the daylight. Depending on the project, there are 6 or 7 planes that always seem to get used..... Depending on the size of the project....some will get swapped out for another size. The #7 may turn into a #6, or a #5-1/2. The #4 may get changed out to a #3 size. That #5 may get replaced by the 5-1/4 as a jack. The #5 has a bit of camber to the edge of the iron, the 5-1/4 does not. After a long day of pushing planes around...smaller ones tend to come out....old arms tend to get tired.
  6. steven newman

    Garage sale morning...

    Rehabs the rest of the weekend, maybe? One Garage sale...all it said was.."Tools" Boss spent more than I did...but, she wasn't buying tools. I spent around $9 this morning...picked five tools Just had to shine up that medallion, to see what this saw was. . Hmmm, ring a bell? Saw is 26" long, has 8ppi, a skew back, and is wickedly SHARP. Paid a dollar for it... This be a $2 all-steel Shelton block plane....next.. This be a Millers Falls No. 900, I think. made after the Mohawk-Shelbourne line was ended...mid 50s? $2.....have had to fix the rear handle, this time it was broke. Front knob has "issues" ( cracks), Lever cap was replaced. Both handle bolts are one piece..bolts. And they were bent. Now, how good is your French? These two were also $2 each. Logo on the iron? A single eyeball means this is about..1875 era. Goldenberg Acier Fondu ( cast steel) Warantie ( warranted) ) This is an adjuster, there is a pin from the iron, into the head of the bolt. Other end of the bolt engages two square nuts, these push against a notch in the bed for the iron. All this adjusts is to retract the iron. Irons are both 1-5/8" wide....bodies are about 9-1/2" long. Both have chip breakers.....neither of them are attach to the irons. These two will take a bit of time to fix up. Five items = $9.....I turned down three Handyman planes, a beat up mitre box and quite a few other "treasures"....figured I had done enough for one sale... Not too bad of a morning?
  7. I read with great interest and relief for the outlook that James Krenov had with his hand tools, and sharpening, and maintenance. For years I have been put off by the many sharpening gadgets, guides, holders, science, bevel up, bevel down, yadayadayada. I have always thought that folks can get wound waaaay too tightly over the science of woodworking, and tooling, so much so they forget the joy of the actual woodwork. James Krenov had a very lax position on the sharpening of his tools, specifically hand plane blades. He sharpened free hand, never spent too much time doing it, never worried about secondary bevels, or angles, and he used oil stones. Honestly, growing up as a teenager and learning woodwork in my dads shop, Krenov's method of sharpening is the exact way my dad taught me, just put the cutter up on an oil stone, keep the angle around 45 degrees, and do the fingernail test, if it looks good, it's ready. Here is a quote from Krenov that I love: What Krenov said about sharpening about sums it all up for many of us. I used to use a roller guide (on and off, depending on the latest fad) to support my chisels and plane irons for sharpening, not anymore, I have been free handing it most of my woodworking life and I am very happy with the results. I love James Krenov approach on this subject, basically he's just saying, get over it! It's just a tool! And have fun! My eyes glaze over when the sharpening gurus start talking about angles, micro bevels, body positioning, and more, jeez, get over it, it's just woodworking! If free hand sharpening on an old oil stone is good enough for Krenov, it's good enough for me, just like ol Dad taught me! And if you are a user of the sharpening guides, and it works for you, stick with it! There are many sharpening jigs out there for the woodworker and it's a great aid, I must admit I can get into the jigs really easy, but in my puritan quest as of late, I am liking free hand sharpening more and more.
  8. This past week I purchased this Stanley No. 71 Router plane and was glad to add it to my collection. I haven't done anything to it yet as far as cleaning it up. It has a patent date of March 4 '84. This is a Type 4 No 71 Router Plane. This plane was only made for a three year period in this configuration so this is a fairly rare plane to find. I already had a No 71 Type 8. They type 8 was made between 1908 and 1915. Also in the collection I had two Stanley No 71 1/2 planes. The first one is a No 71 1/2 Type 4. The 71 1/2 was made because the 71 originally had a closed throat and then they opened it up. So many of the guys liked the closed throat they brought it back out as a 71 1/2. My other 71 1/2 is a type 5. I am missing the depth gauge on one of them and I just noticed I dropped the blade out of one of them and it wasn't in the picture. Anyway, here is my Router Plane Collection. Looking forward to getting back out and doing more Patriot Picking!!
  9. steven newman

    Return trip from a Shindig

    On the road trip from the Lumberjocks get together......trying to make it around curves and over mountains...back end of the pickup truck was FULL. Kept looking for ANY Antique Stores / Malls......got back into OHIO before we even found one open. To even get out of the Shindig, we had to load up as much of Charles Neil's "scrap wood bin" as we could. This is about half of my "share"..the rest is further back in that corner. Anyway, this is about tools.. These two are the "keepers" of the BUNCH... This one is only for the handle, plate is junk. Not too sure about this thingy... Anyway, I sold Charles 3 saws, and fixed up another for him....I had to haul all the rest of his saws home.... There are TWO Butcher's saws on the bottom. Most of these will be for parts. (free saws...) There was a bit of trading going on. Charles had a top shelf of planes and tools he did not want...I got two planes.. That little piece of metal is my plane stop dog. The plane is a Type 7, No. 8 Stanley Jointer plane. Next.. Type 1, Millers Falls No. 11 Junior Jack.. Also tossed my way.. A No. 85 Stearns hinge gauge. A few irons for planes.. Not too sure about the block plane ones, there are 3 from IBC for bench planes. One still in the wrapper is a 2" wide one. Was a few other odds and ends....oh, about that Antique store? They also sold Guitars and accessories, too.... Had to make it a quick stop, though, had a nasty Thunderstorm headed that way. Made one $9.99 +tax buy in the store... It even had a twist drill bit made for this style of drill. Stanley 6" sweep brace. With a 7/16" drill bit. Long weekend, had a LOT of fun, had a great host. LOTS of food. Met some new people, too. Was told to edit Charles out of this picture, as for these other two Hooligans...(note the SMALL planer?) Radial arm saw now has a router instead of a saw....pretty country down there and another.. This was from US 50, on the way home to Ohio. Right after we passed a group of "bikers" setting up to pedal up and down these little hills... Not a bad weekend road trip...
  10. steven newman

    Birthday Rust Hunt, Day 1

    Day one is done.....took two trips to do that, and bring the stuff home. Along with all the normal Friday stuff... Planes? Paid for three of them.. These two and a Great Neck thing hat was shaped like a block plane. I switched the front knob over to the Stanley No.4c, from the Stanley Defiance No. 3. The #4c is a type 10. More about these two later... Saws? It is a Disston....for tree trimming. Ugly teeth award.. Meh...have a few branches that need to be trimmed back....and First of two $1 handsaws...this is the better of the two. It even has a nib... Both of these $1 saws are 26" long. As for number 2.. Warranted Superior on the medallion. Bought this just for the hardware....not the tape, though.. Not sure IF this is a bolt, or a rivet....goes all the way through. And next.. Between the pruning saw and these items, I spent $5.25 Found the hammer head in one box, the handle in another. iron was a quarter. Largest hex key is 5/16". Straight jaw is almost brand new... Then there was this box.. Wasn't a full box, but.. Left side of the box.. And the right side. There were tapered shank bits.. Handsome, ain't they? I'm still digging through the rest, but there were another type of bit.. The expansive bit is a Craftsman, and goes out to 1-1/4". haven't cleaned the others up yet. May go back and see IF a pair of almost brand new braces are still on a table, tomorrow. Day One is done, day Two is about to begin...
  11. steven newman

    Did some trading,today

    I had an English made stanley #4 that I wasn't too fond of. Light blue japanning, kind of loose with the settings.. I had traded off the Sargent #3 Fulton for a Craftsman #4 that the owner wasn't able to fix up. It had those grooved sides, and the worst frog seat I have seen, somehow managed to get it to work.... So, today while out and about, I stopped in at a place, looking for Rusty & Krusty Tools.....Found a nice Stanley #4c on the shelf...checked the price tag...OUCH! $45?! Hmmm... Got to thinking while driving home ( not sure which is more dangerous, me driving, or me thinking..) Decided to pack up those two troublesome planes, and go back to do a little trading.... Set my two on the counter, went to the shelf..there was a second plane sitting there, right beside the Stanley....."Straight up trade? My two for these two? Deal?" Walked out of there with two decent planes.. So, here they are, before I started to clean up their act. Stanley #4c still with that $45 price tag....The one behind it is a Millers Falls No.9 About the same size. The stanley is still a made in England plane, but a lot older than the one I traded it for. Handles may be bakelite, but that is easy to change....That is a Model number and a "Made in England" cast behind the frog "Tropical Hardwood" for the handles....will do a bit of research to see what "Type" this is. Millers Falls is a smooth sole, the Stanley is "Groovy" Maybe after I get a table done, I can get these two fixed up? Straight up trade, 2 planes, for 2 planes, zero cash needed...not too bad a day?
  12. steven newman

    Box making tools

    Used a few "other" tools on the Box of Pine Used this to skinny the lip on the box.. Due to how I made the lip, it needed to be quite thin. I also used a block plane to bevel the top edges just a bit.. Stanley 60-1/2 "Cordovan" behind it is a Yankee No. 41 North Bros. push drill and a stanley spokeshave. The spokeshave worked over the repaired end, to get it flat. The drill? With hinges this small, you need a pilot drill for those tiny screws,,,,,along with a tiny screwdriver.. Made by MillersFalls, I think it is a phillips No. 0 it is smaller than a #1 size phillips. Just a few tools...
  13. HARO50

    Old plane ID

    Trying to identify an old plane I've had for 40 years or more. The only markings are "No. 5" and "Made in England" Don't know if this was the original colour, or if it has been painted. And the fact that most of the name is missing doesn't help either! Any ideas? John
  14. John Moody

    Small finger planes and other stuff

    This is the middle shelf in one of my cabinets. Most of the items here are small finger planes, but there are levels and bevel gauges and other things that need a place to rest. couldnt get get a good picture. I don't think I'm a horder yet!
  15. steven newman

    WIP: Top gets framed

    Well, a Work In progess for the frame for the top panel to sit in. Added a few jigs to the bench, to hold things still long enough to at least smooth the parts. And get them flat. Just a sample of what I had to clean up... And there was one one the wood jaws of the end vise. Both had a "V" notch in them as well..holds angled parts better getting ahead of meself here...anyway, I used a few bench planes to flatten the parts down A cambered jack took down the saw marks fast, then a follow up with either a #6c, or a #5-1/2 plane... I was wading about ankle deep in those thingys. Next, I needed to set up the sash cutter, and get it working.. Ok, a few things going on here: yes, that is where the screws go when this frame is put together. No. not enough room to use a vise for this work....fence issues. Cordless drivers drill the pilot holes, and install/remove the screws as needed. Rounded part of the sash molding is to the outside. A BIG rebate is going on the inside. Cutter only goes so wide, which leaves a "lip" back there. had to bring out a few other tools for that rebate.. Mainly that #78. The woodie also got used, as did the block plane. The shorter ends weren't too bad to do, but the longer ones... One of the fastest ways to get rid of the 1/2" wide lip on these was that #5c laying there. Then clean the mess up with the usual suspects. Got all the rails done, finally, and decided to try a test fit.. Hmmm, needed a better square cut.....BRB.....ah, drill a small pilot hole, install the screw, for now need to do the other three corners, add some glue, and decide on the center brace. The frame will get a center piece, front to back, to help with the middle of the plywood panel. All of that, next time, on this Batty Channel...stay tuned for part 2.
  16. steven newman

    Stanley #45 vs the Wards #78

    Needed to cutter a couple rebates in the back corner posts of that dresser, to house a plywood back. Whether to use the 45...or..the 78? Clamped a side to the bench......but first, I needed to 1) dig the 78 out of it's box, and sharpen the cutter, 2) reset the 45 with the no. 17 straight cutter, and sharpen that cutter. The 78 also had a bit of rust starting to "bloom" so that got cleaned up, too. Set the 45 up Was trying to set the fence for a 5/8" wide cut...wound up being just over 1/2".....no biggie Next I set up the 78.. I got it a bit closer to that 5/8" wide. Yeah, got the first side in the clamps on the bench.. Almost too big? And then tried the Wards 78.. That big, old knot at the far end? the 78 just cut right on through there. Thumb did get a bit sore, trying to hold the plane steady. Have to keep the fence against the work, while making all of this mess.. Once the first couple passes are done with a finely set iron, then you can hog the rest off. Then a final fine pass. Ok, now for the 45. clamped the other side into the bench.. As you can see, it also cuts a decent rebate. This side had a pair of knots...the cutter on the 45 does not like knots, and chattered the entire time when going over them. still cut them, just protested. Lots of shavings as well, just...different.. As there isn't the adjustment for depth like on the 78. Once the depth is set, that's it, unless you want to stop and loosen and adjust and tighten back up. PITA. But, the plane is much easier on the left hand to hold and push the plane. Still have to push on the fence to keep it against the work. As for it's rebate? Both are about the same. I set things for a 1/4" depth and around 1/2" or so wide. IF you don't mind a very sore thumb, a Stanley/Wards No. 78 is a nice way to do these. It will also do this on the ends of a board, as it has a nicker for cross grain work. IF you have the Stanley #45 or it's relatives, it works nicely here as well. HEAVIER is all. The 78 seems to weigh about half what the 45 did today. The 45 is easier on the hands, though. Well, test is done, I have some other chores to finish up, today.. Need to cut a few panels, to finish up side #2....
  17. steven newman

    A Work in Progress

    Between using that Stanley 45 and learning this new camera's tricks. Made the lumber Run today....Cheapest 2 x 4 x8' was..$3.15....at Lowes.. Got three and a 2'x4' panel of 1/4" plywood. Good thing I get a 10% discount for my Mil. ID... Got the "Treasures" down to the shop, and let them sit awhile....had other things to do... had four more blanks to surface S4S.. Used a couple larger planes for that job ( and you'll what the camera is doing, too) That be a Stanley No.5-1/2, sitting in front of a stanley No. 6c Apparently, the "Macro" setting was still on? Or not.. Anyway, i got the four blanks looking decent enough.. seems to be a lot of glare off the overhead light, too. Decided to give the Stanley 45 a good run for it's money... Got going too fast and rough on one edge...and the depth stop came off the cutter. Got to checking the cutter....yuck, instead of a flat bevel, it has a rounded bevel...like a beer belly. Will take the time tomorrow to straight that out. Decided I could drill a hole into each end( tenons go there, anyway) and attach the blank to the side of the bench. Needed to counter sink the holes a bit, so the fence won't hit the screws.. Need to resize this one down, camera makes too big a picture. Brace is a 6" Keen Kutter, by Millers falls. Anyway, Once the blank was set up.. I could pound away with the 45. Once each blank was done, time to make some tenons on the ends. BTW: I cleaned the rebate with an older plane.. So,..tenons. I used the first blank to mark out where the tenons would be. Took the blank around to the mitre box and cut the shoulders... Has a stop cut set just about right. Once both ends were cut, I could walk back around to the bench, and do the cheek cut.. And let the waste drop off. Cleaned up with a chisel.. Kept trying to find out which setting worked the best, depending on how close I was....not always working out. I got two with both edges done, and one for the bottom of the side. The bottom and top blanks only have one molded edge. Legs started to get crampy....and even the ribs. Time to call it a day. Of the two blanks left to do ( out of five) both will be either a bottom or a top blank. Too many knots. New 2x4 should be able to give me a few knot-free blanks, I hope. Too tired and sore right now, maybe tomorrow,eh?
  18. John Hechel

    New wood planes.

    Just picked myself some new to me edge treatment planes and I need to gloat. All 16 planes (in not even sure of all the cutting styles yet) for $5 each. Now I have to do some research as to how to best clean these up and return them to service
  19. steven newman


    Everytime I rehab a plane or do a bit of "upkeep" to one, I tend to set up a bit of scrap to test the plane out. kind of fun WHEN they are set up right. Also shows me what needs attention... Already had the Fulton done, and had a Craftsman ready....then the camera.....got the camera to work again..for a little while Made by millers falls. Had to completely re-do the bevel on the iron....hey, they do tend to wear a bit. Checked on a couple other planes... This Ohio Tool Co. No. 0-7 had a bit of rust on the sole. C;eaned it up, and check the settings.... then started on the next little plane.. A Stanley No. 6c, type 10. Wax the sole, and move on.. A Stanley No. 5-1/2 Jumbo Jack. Type 17 makes it almost the youngest of the group.. Now, I do have two Stanley Jack planes...the No. 5c has a cambered edge to the iron, the Stanley No. 5 smooth sole? Seems to be about ready? Which leaves a No. 4 sized plane to check on.. A Stanley No. 4 Type 13 SW model. Seems to be about ready? That be the main group of planes. I also tried out a Stanley No.7c, type 9....but then the camera locked up, again. Grrrrrrr. Maybe next time, I'll have a larger piece of pine scrap?
  20. steven newman

    A Cherry PIP?

    Down to the detail work now.....clamped the two parts together, and planed, and sanded them to at least look like they matched just about every toy sitting there was used. Finally got all four sides done...I think. Spread around some of that SMELLY BLO to act as a seal coat.. Not a top coat, just something to seal the wood up. As for the sides? This will be the hunge side, and the "right" end of the box.....the "Latch" side? Or..it might be the other way around. Not sure just yet. Decided to just have a single bead, as two would have been a bit too "busy".....now I need to go out and get some hinges, and a latch... Waiting on the BLO to cure out, and quit smelling the shop up....
  21. Well, managed to sneak back to the shop for a bit. Finished those dovetails. Remembered to make the pins first, this time. Needed to clamp all four sides up, as if they were glued up.. Yep,almost square, too. Needed this to size the panel.. Width was ok, it was the length I needed to be set. Trimmed the excess off the end, and started to lay out some lines.... 1" in from the edge. And another line.. 1/4" up from the underside. Paul Sellers uses this method to make a raised panel. While he' d leave the panel like this, I don't. Easier to lay it flat on the bench. We do use about the same tool to do the job.. A Stanley #4. I go at the diagonal to the end grain, until both lines are gone. Makes a nice bevel. I then repeat for the other end grain... This way, any tear out will get planed off during the next step. Repeat with the marks, this time along the edges. I can go along the grain on these. When there is a nice diagonal line at the corners, where the bevels meet, I should be about done.. This needs a little more done to the end grain side. I can stand the panel up in the vise, and use just a block plane to finesse the corners. I also add a hint of back bevel from the bottom. Laid the panel on the frame, again.. Not the prettiest gal at the dance? I was checking to make sure I had enough to fit into a groove I need to mill next. I set up a plane for that job.. Stanley #45, again. Set up for a 1/4" x 1/4" groove. Need to bring my drill/driver down to the shop, and build a jig, first. Maybe tomorrow? Been a rather busy day. Panel will set down about 1/4" or so, below the edge of the top. . Stay tuned to this "Batty Channel" Same Bat-time......
  22. steven newman

    Cherry Box of Squares,lid work

    Ok, time for the "late Edition", Went back down to shop for a bit....had a little more work I could do.. Yeah,,, ugly things. We have ways of flattening this out.. Called a Jumbo Jack plane. Jack plane on steroids. The weight will help keep the board down onto the bench. Have to do both faces, and even a few smooth plane passes... Until I get these four slats, fairly straight, and smooth.....enough to at least work with them. But, there are those edges.. Back to the Jumbo Jack. Make one side straight, and then gingerly flip the sammich over, and do the other edges. Without any of them moving around...mallet comes in very handy.. Testing the fits... Have to allow for joinery on the ends. Longer sides were ok for length, had to trim the shorter two a bit......Stack all the mess up into one spot.. Have a few more jobs to do with this mess...dovetailed corners, a Stanley #45 to plough a groove for the panel, size the panel and raise it, Might take a day or three..."Say Goodnight, Gracie"
  23. My original shop plans to finish the bandsaw project this weekend didnt quite pan out. Yard work, time with kids at the county fair, a wedding reception and other misc. family activities took priority and it was a fun weekend although shop light. I did get a few minutes to dig through this weeks plane purchase and a few items from a garage sale a week ago. The planes came from an antique mall that is having a retirement sale. Forty bucks for 9 planes didnt seem too bad. I think 7 of them are easily going to users and are complete. Number 8 is missing an iron. The 9th is really a donor and i will use it to make wedges and to replace boxing on some better planes that I have. I am getting closer to a set of hollows and rounds. The garage sale misc. is a bit of a strange mix. All of the porcelain knobs were 3 dollars. The rest of the items I wound up getting at a quarter each. I am not sure why I bought the plumb bobs. I had several already but for a quarter for the two??...you know!! I have plans to make a parts cabinet in the future with multiple drawers and this much matching hardware will come in handy when the time comes. Hope everyone had a good weekend.
  24. John Morris

    Wood Planes, Why and How

    Disclosure: This is a scanned document of the now defunct Workbench Magazine of this era. Permission was granted by the new Workbench Publication for The Patriot Woodworker community to copy and use the old Workbench Magazine at our pleasure, and for free distribution and re-use. Hey folks, I was going through my old Work Bench Magazine that I typically scan for our downloads section but this fun article about wood planes I just had to share here. Just some fun stuff is all, take it or leave it.

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