I have had bad luck with pencils. I like the ole wooden pencils to mark my wood with. Nearly all I have purchased have faulty graphite that breaks easily or the outer wooden/artificial substance falls apart. There are a lot of my pencils located around my shop in unusual places. That is where they landed when I threw them when they failed. The flat carpenters pencils are too large for my liking. How about a recommendation for quality pencils. The ones at HD (for wood marking) are predictably awful . I don't like the mechanical, not because of cost, but they mysteriously hide shortly after purchase. I think they are possessed