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Friend of mine likes his .308 rifle and gave me some shells to see if a pen could be made using them. Well yes I can. I found the .308 shell was a bit short so I figured a spacer to make it longer was needed. Looked at various ways and materials for making the spacer and ended up with cutting the top off a second shell the necessary amount would be best. I like how they turned out and since I had a few .30-30 shells I made a couple from them too. The .30-30 shell was a tad longer than the .308 and on both I had to press a piece of 5/16" brass rod through the boss for the bullet to enlarge it for the pen guts to fit.