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  1. 6 points
    Cliff

    It's wood, & I'm gonna work it

    Got a delivery today. Saw some nice crotches in there I may not be able to resist sawing some up for lumber This wood is city clicker lumber. Came from a City out east.
  2. 6 points
    Gunny

    Tribute

    Very true. I miss my fallen comrades and would gladly have changed places if possible.
  3. 6 points
    Artie

    Lesson learned on Hickory

    Sorry John, we covered grounding on the other thread.
  4. 5 points
    PostalTom

    Lesson learned on Hickory

    Since this web site is as much about lessons learned as it is about displaying our successful efforts, let me share my ongoing experience, namely that I made two incompatible decisions. Lately I have been interested in trying different woods with which I have not yet worked. My choice was Hickory. I have also wanted to develop more confidence using hand tools instead of relying solely on machines. I decided to make a project for my wife, using hand tools as much as possible. I guess that was a third decision to add to the incompatibility morass. Part of the project involved chopping out mortises using a good set of Marples chisels and my dead blow mallet. I'll leave it at that, except to say that the lesson learned was that if the desire is to practice/develop hand tool expertise, don't start with on of the hardest, densest, heaviest woods available. Oh well, nothing several kits of epoxy can't fix.
  5. 5 points
    John Moody

    Lesson learned on Hickory

    This was a Hickory project we finished back in January. I can tell no hand tools were used. We ran the slabs through the dual drum sander to flatten. There was a point I thought about using a hand plane, but that thought passed pretty quick! But it I do love the look of some beautiful Hickory!
  6. 5 points
    FlGatorwood

    Another Day at the Beach

    These folks are supervisors, drive and vote. God help us.
  7. 5 points
    Gunny

    Another Day at the Beach

    Everyone has there own filter in dealing with hardships in life. In combat laugher kept us sane. Monday will be a somber occasion in the morning as we remember those that have fallen. Then an afternoon of stories and the good times we had. My plan anyway.
  8. 5 points
    Gunny

    Lesson learned on Hickory

    Mine mostly curses at me, in different languages sometimes.
  9. 5 points
    Gerald

    It's wood, & I'm gonna work it

    Looks like a busy weekend
  10. 5 points
    hatuffej

    Another Day at the Beach

    I think it is important to realize that most people understand the significance of Memorial Day and Veterans Day, and the sacrifices veterans and their families made. However, they don't do it in a somber manner. My Dad was a WWII Navy veteran in the Pacific campaigns, and he always made those holidays fun times for the family. We celebrated the freedom of our lives. That isn't being disrespectful.
  11. 5 points
    Gunny

    Lesson learned on Hickory

    I broke off some concrete slag with one yesterday.
  12. 5 points
    Fitting the Rockers The rockers are always fun to fit to a chair. There are some factors that could cause the installation to the legs to be disastrous, or not, there are only two outcomes with this part of the process, either it looks good, or it doesn't. So here we go, we are going to install the rockers onto the chair legs. The edges of the rockers were still rough from the initial band saw cut out two years ago, so I wanted to smooth the edges, first I put one of the rockers up in my bench vise and attempted to use my shave to smooth out the ridges left by the bandsaw, but my technique was lacking, this curly maple edge is hard to understand for me, the grain direction did not want to cooperate and I ended up with tear-out. I'll have to revisit my shaving skills on curly edges, and see where I can improve in that regard, if anyone has any suggestions on smoothing edged curly wood, I am all ears. So instead of making it worse I decided to go ahead and chuck up a small spindle sander with 80 grit and I was able to take the edges down to smooth, and followed it up with sand paper. After I got all the edges smoothed up on the drill press, I planed the old wood away to get a consistent surface throughout the entire chair, these rockers were sitting for two years, and they developed a patina darker then the rest of the chair, so with my No. 4 smoother I made it nice again. There is reversing grain in these rockers all over the place, I had to hold down one end of the rocker, plane, then reverse the rocker and plane the other direction. In another topic I was discussing this exact scenario for reversing grain and planning out your material usage for specific parts of a project. When I started building this chair I was still pretty much in my machine phase in every thing I did, two years later I am very much into my hand tool phase. Two years ago, reversing grain didn't mean much in this instance, now it means everything, knowing what I know now, I would not have chosen this part of the lumber that I did for these rockers. Once I planed the rockers smooth, I followed up with the scraper, there was a little tear out from the plane, the scraper is a great tool for dealing with tricky grains. I set the chair upside down on the bench in order to work on the bottom legs, there are notches that must be cut in order for the rockers to fit into. I just made this handy little template the morning I took these images. There is a small notch in the template where it meets the legs, so I can scribe a line accurately down the center of the leg bottoms. I did not have this template for the first chair I made, but browsing through Kerry Pierce's book on Shaker Furniture, I saw a similar handy template he was using and I decided to make one of my own, it works well. The lines have to be inline with each other, between the leg bottoms. This template ensures that alignment. Lined up and ready to measure out the notches. Before I start cutting into my leg bottoms, I wanted to layout the location where the legs meet the rockers, my story stick told me exactly where to mark out. With my notches marked out with a marking knife, and penciled in, I am ready to cut the notches out. I used a marking knife to cut some deep lines into the leg bottoms, in order for my saw to have a better chance of tracking well and cutting straight. The hole at the bottom of the notch helps when I go to chip out the waste. Here are the main tools I use to cut and shape my rocker notches, from left to right, a Japanese Iwasaki float, a small mallet, and a dovetail saw, the very fine teeth of the dovetail saw work really well for these precise cuts. I cut down the lines, and to the limit line at the bottom notch, then I chisel away the waste, very little by little. One slip up here it could mean a mess to fix, you have to be careful not to drive the chisel too hard, you could split the rocker leg. Here we have a complete notch for a rocker, and cleaned up nicely. The Japanese float comes in handy for the final fitting and shaping the notches. Since there is no cutting edge on these floats, as there are in most Western style files, you can file right up against the side of the notch with the flat of the file doing its business at the bottom of the notch. The rocker is set in place for about the tenth time during fitting, and the final fit is good. But, the fit is a tad tight, I had to press it in place pretty hard to get it seated into the notch, so I made a decision to make the fit a tad loose, I was concerned that with a very tight fit, and the stress the chair is under as it is being used, that the leg may split. So I used the scraper once again to take some micro shavings off the leg areas, and I finally got the fit I wanted. Now there we are, two rockers, fitting nicely, and ready for pinning. I'll post back here later tonight, right now family is needing dad, so I'll catch up with you tonight! Thanks for following along!
  13. 5 points
    Artie

    Storage Shed Plans/ideas

    Well my milk of human kindness has it’s limits. I told the MIL that I would demo the old shed, and build/install/research the new one. I also said that I would have nothing to do with the emptying of the old shed. Old shed is still pretty full. This probably has at least a 25% chance of not even happening. BUT YES, iff’n it comes to fruition, I will try to do a photo/essay narration on the project, on a par with John, and Jess’s, (no way I can do one as good as Steve’s) so all will know how NOT to build a shed.
  14. 5 points
    PostalTom

    Lesson learned on Hickory

    Yeah, I keep telling myself that!
  15. 5 points
    Artie

    Another Day at the Beach

    I live in a small town in Mass. Small by Mass standards, population 12, 000 (us and NJ are the two most densely populated states in the union) Anywho when I moved out here there was one barber shop (still only the one), so I go there for my haircuts. I’m mostly a buzz cut with a #2 cutter, in and out quickly, good for 3 more months. So the barber shop is named Mel’s, for Mel the barber. His son does most of the cutting now. Mel was on the beach 75 years ago this June 6. Mel wouldn’t talk about his experience, but would talk about his buddies that didn’t make it. Unfortunately for the last couple of years Mel is back Lon the beach, more than he’s in current times. Maybe I’m just out of the loop (highly likely), but it seems there is very little attention being paid to the fact that it was 75 years ago this June 6. On Monday, the low tide is at 11:00, at the beach. I’ve only gone detecting once since September, really want to go Monday. I will no be there, because I refuse to be anywhere other than in our back yard, clapping for those in our Memorial Day Parade. It get’s so little turnout compared to the July 4’th parade. I understand the that a Memorial Day Parade is a MUCH more somber occasion, but if those old vets can get up and march, I will be there, clapping and saluting. Bout 4 years ago there was a heavy rain forecast for the parade so they cancelled it. I guess that having gone through the experiences that qualified them as veterans, they don’t melt in rain. So a group of the vets (youngest mighta ran in his mid 60’s) marched without a police escort, or official blessing. Somehow they survived their ordeal. Think they’re tougher than the crowd that sits and watches. Year before this occurred, a call came in, in the middle of the parade. The two fire engines, and police escort vehicles beat feet. Everyone else just stayed where they were, talking to each other, roads stayed shut down. Bout an hour later the fire engines and cruisers returned, and the parade picked right up where it was. I like the town the Missus and myself wound up in.
  16. 5 points
    Artie

    Lesson learned on Hickory

    To pry off the top cover? Or to mortise a pouring hole?
  17. 5 points
    Gene Howe

    Lesson learned on Hickory

    Love that quote, too. Just the other day, I used a chisel...to open a paint can.
  18. 4 points
    John Morris

    Another Day at the Beach

  19. 4 points
    Gene Howe

    Another Day at the Beach

    A fellow woodworker on the Shopsmith site has a tag line that is appropriate. "Heros don't wear a cape. They wear dog tags. " It matters not a whit what job you were assigned in the service. You served. That's all that's all that matters to me.
  20. 4 points
    Gunny

    It's wood, & I'm gonna work it

    I am exhausted just looking at the pile!!
  21. 4 points
    John Morris

    It's wood, & I'm gonna work it

    Holy Cow Cliff! You got a way to cut that all up, or does someone come over with a mill to do that? Welcome back, missed ya!
  22. 4 points
    hatuffej

    Lesson learned on Hickory

    I understand your perspective but that's not how I do it. I use all my machines after I have carefully laid out the wood, looking for its best appearance, and listening to it speak to me as I move along. When I built my dining table, it took me 3 days of looking and listening to decide how to arrange the pieces for the top. I do the same when I make jewelry boxes. The wood will direct me where to cut and how to match pieces; the tool does not matter.
  23. 4 points
    Gene Howe

    Tribute

    For the Fallen” by Lawrence Binyon. “They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old: Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning We will remember them.”
  24. 4 points
    John Morris

    Lesson learned on Hickory

    Well, there are boundaries Artie.
  25. 4 points
    PostalTom

    Lesson learned on Hickory

    Don't worry guys. I have not mothballed my machines, I just want to learn alternate methods when it makes sense to use them. Also, there is a certain satisfaction in having a project reflect my efforts instead of those who designed my machines. Still, though, it will be a long time before I thickness plane or smooth a board with a hand plane instead of my planer and ROS. And as long as I'm not making $75 pieces of firewood, I'm having fun.
  26. 4 points
    Been there done that! Pushing hardwood through the table saw, why is my SS walking away from me?
  27. 4 points
    Gene Howe

    Tribute

    Much like Arlington and Flanders fields. Monday is just a day set aside for remembrance. Many of us have hearts that remember way more often. Silently but, with no less reverence.
  28. 4 points
    Gene Howe

    Another Day at the Beach

    So true!
  29. 4 points
    lew

    Another Day at the Beach

    Amen
  30. 4 points
    Gene Howe

    Imitated Turning Tools

    Imitation is the greatest form of flattery. And, competition is always good. As far as Woodpecker tools are concerned, I have an aversion to red tools...well, red saw blades, anyhow.
  31. 3 points
    hatuffej

    Another Day at the Beach

    No, he died in 1970. Solid Navy vet. He always wore a poppy in his coat lapel when he went to work. I knew a farmer who fought in Europe (Battle of the Bulge.) He told me to always laugh with veterans, make it a bright day. So, yes, we remember, but we don't make it solemn. Wives and mothers especially appreciate that.
  32. 3 points
    lew

    It's wood, & I'm gonna work it

    Well that should keep you in pen blanks for a couple of days!! Happy to know you're still with us.
  33. 3 points
    John Morris

    Another Day at the Beach

    I hope you are right, but my experience with folks around me, has not been as positive as yours Hat. I doubt it's even discussed in our public schools out here in CA anymore. Even the interviewer with the mic gets mixed up too, he references Memorial Day as a day for veterans, but hey, not to take away from this topic, I'm just sitting here having fun tonight guys. Hope everyone has a good and memorable weekend!
  34. 3 points
    John Morris

    Another Day at the Beach

    I would say your Dad earned the right to observe Memorial Day any way he danged well pleased! That's for sure! Hat, is your dad still alive today, sorry if this was covered before, just curious.
  35. 3 points
    Gunny

    Chick-fil-A (another reason to eat there)

    I met Truett Cathy many years ago, played in the church orchestra with Dan Cathy and saw Bubba Cathy at various church activities and at a local Christian School they sponsored. Great folks, down to earth.
  36. 3 points
    Artie

    Lesson learned on Hickory

    I do kinda wish that my efforts weren’t quite so humanlike LOL.
  37. 3 points
    John Morris

    Lesson learned on Hickory

    And that is all that counts Tom, bravo! Also, for projects reflecting efforts, those efforts include imperfect results, that show a human made it, and that is a good thing.
  38. 3 points
    John, I will especially want to read your report on the SS lathe.
  39. 3 points
    John Morris

    Lesson learned on Hickory

    That's right Tom. There is a reason why in our country, the most popular wood species to work with hand tools is Cherry, Walnut, Maple to start, and it's the reason why many of the old furnishings you see still around today are made from those species, oh and lets not leave out Mahogany, another wonderful wood to hand tool. Using hand tools has opened up my eyes more and more to the choice of wood we use. Since my own dive into hand tools, I find myself investigating the wood more closely before I use it, I inspect for grain direction, grain straightness, knots are a no no, and wild grain should be avoided. Even planing out a project using hand tools takes on a whole new meaning and level of attention and awareness regarding how and when you are going to use a specific piece, or part of a board. You have to plan how you are going to orient those boards because you want to avoid as much as possible reversing grain within two boards that you have to plane together after glue up. The list goes on and on how acutely aware you must be as you plan your projects, and how you are going to use the tools in those projects. With a machine, you can pretty much use anything in any orientation, just set up on the table saw and rip away, secure the boards together with your preferred method, and put them through the planer, sand them, reversing grain or not, just sand it all out. With hand tools you have to think about those things more carefully. Thus the reason that when you do use hand tools, the wood truly is speaking to you. Not to get all Zen with ya Tom, but there is a deep satisfaction in using hand tools, it just depends where folks are at in their woodworking, one way is not superior to the other, machined or hand tools, it just the journey that you want to take yourself on that is important. I'll go back to this quote that I know Gene has seen before, and I absolutely love. And that truly is the bottom line Tom, it's all about you and the journey into making that project that counts, the outside noise is just that, noise, don't let folks dissuade you. Speaking of noise, I find it very nice and wonderful that the noise level has been cut down significantly in my own shop, and you know what? My clean up has been reduced significantly. After each project I use to break out the compressor and air hose and blow the shop out, I have not fired up that compressor in a long time, most of my mess is just swept away now, shavings that just drop to the ground, or rest on the bench, and my lungs are thanking me as well. Hang in there Tom, I'd love it if you kept at it, because I am in the beginning stages myself in transitioning to hand tools, completely if I have my way and my patience allows it, for now I am in the hybrid state of my conversion, but slowly but surely I am turning to the scraper instead of a sander, a hand saw instead of power, a hand plane instead of 400 grit, and much more is happening in my shop with hand work. Welcome to the fold Tom, I hope I have a hand tool member here we can exchange ideas and methods and learn together.
  40. 3 points
    hatuffej

    Lesson learned on Hickory

    I recall a conversation o another forum years back about using hand tools like the old-timers did. I replied that if the old-times had the power tools we have today, they would have used them extensively, chuckling all day long.
  41. 3 points
    Gene Howe

    Lesson learned on Hickory

    Same here, Jesse. The horse and buggy days are gone. I like my car. Just sayin.
  42. 3 points
    Smallpatch

    Lesson learned on Hickory

    Tom I'm at an age where I don't even want to learn how hard it was on those early folks having to work with those hand tools. I do have lots of those old things but they are for looks only.. I enjoy my power tools..
  43. 3 points
    Don't forget to raise them wheels!
  44. 3 points
    @Gene Howe, today in addition to fastening the rockers, I am going to turn the shawl rail, on my Shopsmith! This'll be the first time I've used the SS lathe. Wish me luck!
  45. 3 points
    hatuffej

    Tribute

    I like that, Gene!
  46. 3 points
    What a great way to honor the fallen. Thanks for the post, John.
  47. 3 points
    John Morris

    Storage Shed Plans/ideas

    Ok Artie, shed should have been built by now, where's the pics!
  48. 3 points
    Your narrations and photos are so chock full of good and, interesting info, so don't worry about the length. PIP posts are always the best.
  49. 3 points
    Thanks Bob and Gator, I like story telling, if this series gets a little long winded, please let me know, I can get wordy. That being said, I do love it when folks share their work here on The Patriot Woodworker, that the images are accompanied with good descriptions. I do appreciate the "Look what I built" topics, I love the images, but if you can also put a little narration in with the images, I feel others can walk away with something more too, perhaps new ideas, new motivations. I like to see things like, how'd you do it? What did you use? Where can I find it? What didn't work, what did work? What was in your mind when you decided on that method instead of? You know who is really good at narrating their work here? Jess, Smallpatch, I love reading his narrations of his images. Thanks again guys.
  50. 3 points
    In Part 1 of this topic series I shaped my arms, that was just over two years ago when I started this rocker and then shelved it for reasons out of my control. To see how I shaped the arms you can view here at Shaping Arms. In our current topic here, I sketched out a rough shape where the arm tenon should be. The mortise is 5/8", I used a ruler to establish my tenon lines. Now, since I am heading towards a hand tool experience in my shop, I could have easily made these little cuts with my turning saw, but truth be told, I really like using my Shopsmith, it's that fun for me now. So I converted the SS from a Drill Press to Bandsaw operation. The motor and table is tilted back down to the base. Then the Band Saw is mounted and the motor is slid over to connect with the bandsaw. The tenons are cut and now they need to be shaped round and the arms need to blend into the tenon area. With my Lee Valley shave, I start to make some cuts, and see where it takes me. I have an idea what I want to see the shape look like, but I am kind of winging it here, because I really want to use my RAY ILES tenon cutter, so I need to rough shape the tenons close to round, then the tenon cutter can be used. Just another perspective of the image above. My tenon cutter is working well, it will cut a perfect 5/8" round tenon. So I have a little problem here, I am not too sure I like the tapered portion before the tenon that the cutter produced, I like the more sculpted appearance of a completely hand shaped tenon. You can see the more sculpted beginning of the arm tenon on the arm above the other in the image below, and the boring smooth shape the tenon cutter produced on the arm below the other, I am mulling the use of the cutter in the future. The cutter is made more for Windsors, where the smooth tenon (no shoulder) is tradition. The Shaker chairs traditionally have a shouldered tenon. And that shouldered tenon consequently allows more material for creative shaping. Both arms shaped with the cutter, I also tried to add some interesting sculpted lines that flow into the tenon area the best I could, just to keep it visually interesting. I think I succeeded, not a complete loss in the design department after all. With the arms shaped, we are ready for glue up to the chair. I cut a slot in the front leg top tenon in order to accommodate the wedged tenon that will keep the arm tightly secured to the chair. After a dry run installation, I marked the arms for the holes the top tenons will fit into. I did not get images of this process, I thought I did! It's an interesting way to get the arms perfectly aligned and holes marked for boring, next time I'll have to take images of that operation and walk through it. But for now, the image below shows the arm in place, I tapped the wedged piece of cherry I cut earlier into the slot very firmly with a regular steel hammer, a steel hammer seems to be the only tool to ram these wedges home, I tried a wood mallet on wedges for other projects in the past and it just doesn't feel like it does the job like a heavy steel head hammer does. Almost immediately I cut the wedge flush with my Crown flushing saw. And planed it flush to the arm. You may have noticed the chair is not sitting on the floor. I needed to support the chair firmly between my legs on solid ground in order to get the plane to cut through the tenon without too much pressure being place on the rocker at this point. Even with the plane skewed, cutting through the end grain of the tenon required a bit of force. Then scraped the surface to bring it completely flush and pretty. it's getting late this day (last Sunday) and I finished my goal just in time for dinner. Time to close up shop. I have a chair frame assembled, the only thing missing is the shawl rail at the top of the chair. I will have to turn the rail and steam bend it, the shawl rail will also be fitted to the top tenons at the rear legs with a wedged tenon just like the arms. To make this chair I studied Kerry Pierce's book "Chairmaking Simplified" and "Pleasant Hill Shaker Furniture" also by Kerry Pierce. I poured over the images, and sketches, and the processes and learned, thanks to Mr. Pierce, how to build these wonderfully fun chairs. Thank you Mr. Pierce! After I finished my celebratory cup of coffee and took the picture above, I swept the floor, cleaned up shop, and rolled my Shopsmith to the side of our garage to make room for mama's car. Lights are turned off, mama's car is pulled in, and it's time to join the family in the home, for dinner and fun. Next post in this topic will show how the rockers are fitted to the chair. Thanks for following!
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