How far would you go?

[Cal 8,921]

To get a/another shopsmith?

Was checking out a local on-line auction last night and seen that they have a Shopsmith listed.

 

https://bid.bidderone.com/lot-details/index/catalog/27185/lot/4095368?url=%2Fauctions%2Fcatalog%2Fid%2F27185%3Fpage%3D1

 

Looks to be complete with a lot of accessories.

A lot of tools in this sale, which generally translates to higher prices.

This is a fairly local sale to me so I will be going over during the inspection.

If anyone is interested I would be happy to take more pics and ask about it, although anything short of "does it power up" will likely be met with a shrug.

 

[John Morris 23,034]

For a complete nice SS with upgraded table, and the right price, I'd go a couple hundred miles.

You looking to buy Cal?

[Fred W. Hargis Jr 11,675]

Here's one for free, but it looks like it needs some (maybe lots) TLC.

Edited April 6 by Fred W. Hargis Jr

[HandyDan 97,051]

Here is one for sale near me.  Says it was purchased in 1955.

 

https://youngstown.craigslist.org/tls/d/youngstown-shop-smith/7300268931.html

 

[kmealy 13,459]

7 hours ago, HandyDan said:

Here is one for sale near me.  Says it was purchased in 1955.

 

https://youngstown.craigslist.org/tls/d/youngstown-shop-smith/7300268931.html

 

That looks like an overpriced 10ER.     

Most more advanced Mark Vs go for $400-500 with one or two add on tools (band saw, belt sander, or jointer).  Despite the fact they were 4-5x that new.  Lots of widows and heirs need to get rid of them.

[HandyDan 97,051]

3 hours ago, kmealy said:

That looks like an overpriced 10ER.     

Most more advanced Mark Vs go for $400-500 with one or two add on tools (band saw, belt sander, or jointer).  Despite the fact they were 4-5x that new.  Lots of widows and heirs need to get rid of them.

 

That's this area.  Here is a saw that has been for sale 22 days.  Can you see why it hasn't sold?

 

https://youngstown.craigslist.org/tls/d/youngstown-10-sears-craftsman-band-saw/7291880655.html

 

 

[FlGatorwood 10,096]

The first one posted by Cal is a 520 Mark V.  That is the latest table configuration.  A new table configuration like that will cost you $1500+ plus taxes and shipping.  

 

The one in Youngstown is in excellent condition but I could not see a speed control on it.  The one post by Fred has a speed control that is worth more than the whole machine.  Those things are rare and worth a couple hundred dollars.  However, the 2 10ERs are heavy and far more stable than the newer versions of Shopsmith.  The old machines have a table similar to a contractor table saw.  The 510 and 520 have larger tables and except for the height adjustment is similar to cabinet table saws.  The only thing that I dislike about the Shopsmith is the tilting table.  But, I have made it work for 15 years as old Shopsmith users and owners have done for 40 years.  

 

I love that you can still get whatever parts you need for your machine.  

[Cal 8,921]

23 hours ago, John Morris said:

For a complete nice SS with upgraded table, and the right price, I'd go a couple hundred miles.

You looking to buy Cal?

 

No John.  Just posted it up in the event there might be some interest in it.  I will be watching to see what it sells for though.

[Gunny 59,454]

1 hour ago, Cal said:

 

No John.  Just posted it up in the event there might be some interest in it.  I will be watching to see what it sells for though.

I am curious on what it goes for

[smitty10101 434]

15 hours ago, kmealy said:

That looks like an overpriced 10ER.     

Are they 10er's or 10e.

IIRC 10er's were sold by Montgomery Wards, & 10e by Shopsmith.

Again IIRC.

I had one prior to the move (10er ?). Gave it away. Now wish I kept it so I could get rid of the HF lathe and then would have not only a lathe but a backup table saw. Oh well!!!

[kmealy 13,459]

A friend of mine says 10ERs make superb drill presses.  The SS factory used to have a number of them working in their shop as drill presses.

 

Someone donated a Sears band saw (much larger than the one in the ad).  In investigating, it had pot metal "bearings" that were just shot.

[HARO50 11,829]

3 hours ago, smitty10101 said:

Are they 10er's or 10e.

IIRC 10er's were sold by Montgomery Wards, & 10e by Shopsmith.

Don't know about the U.S., but my 10ER was purchased direct from Shopsmith. (We don't have Montgomery Wards in Canada). Certainly not back in 1952!

Edited Wednesday at 04:33 PM by HARO50

[kmealy 13,459]

Here's a better deal https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/196763135223229/?ref=browse_tab&referral_code=marketplace_general&referral_story_type=general&tracking={"qid"%3A"6948540770878001284"%2C"mf_story_key"%3A"989853908966775436"%2C"commerce_rank_obj"%3A"{\"target_id\"%3A989853908966775436%2C\"target_type\"%3A6%2C\"primary_position\"%3A5%2C\"ranking_signature\"%3A6316695929365725184%2C\"commerce_channel\"%3A501%2C\"value\"%3A0.00062684600847838%2C\"upsell_type\"%3A3516%2C\"grouping_info\"%3Anull}"%2C"lightning_feed_qid"%3A"6948537545321966826"%2C"lightning_feed_ranking_signature"%3A"5344417897370353664"}

 

[kmealy 13,459]

20 hours ago, FlGatorwood said:

 

The one in Youngstown is in excellent condition but I could not see a speed control on it.  

 

The 10ER we have at the furniture bank has speed control by swapping the belt to different sized pulleys.  (Same as many drill presses)

[FlGatorwood 10,096]

11 hours ago, smitty10101 said:

Are they 10er's or 10e.

IIRC 10er's were sold by Montgomery Wards, & 10e by Shopsmith.

Again IIRC.

I had one prior to the move (10er ?). Gave it away. Now wish I kept it so I could get rid of the HF lathe and then would have not only a lathe but a backup table saw. Oh well!!!

The Mark II was built especially for Monkey Ward and sold by them.  The 10E was the first unit and after a short time, they revised the 10 to 10 ER.  BTW, you don't want to even consider the Mark II.  They make a fair boat anchor.  

[Cal 8,921]

On 4/7/2021 at 9:20 AM, smitty10101 said:

Now wish I kept it so I could get rid of the HF lathe and then would have not only a lathe but a backup table saw. Oh well!!!

 

Here's your chance Smitty to replace it!  Hilton Head is about 4 hours away, but if the price is right...

[JimM 2,909]

And yet another one, this in central NY, and higher asking price.  Can't tell the model from the pics, probably those who are SS savvy can. 

 

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/328040798287692/?ref=product_details&referral_code=marketplace_top_picks&referral_story_type=top_picks&tracking={"qid"%3A"6949140816295620397"%2C"mf_story_key"%3A"240609426600109514"%2C"commerce_rank_obj"%3A"{\"target_id\"%3A240609426600109514%2C\"target_type\"%3A6%2C\"primary_position\"%3A0%2C\"ranking_signature\"%3A6470837340636971008%2C\"commerce_channel\"%3A501%2C\"value\"%3A0%2C\"upsell_type\"%3A21%2C\"grouping_info\"%3Anull}"}

[kmealy 13,459]

35 minutes ago, JimM said:

And yet another one, this in central NY, and higher asking price.  Can't tell the model from the pics, probably those who are SS savvy can. 

 

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/328040798287692/?ref=product_details&referral_code=marketplace_top_picks&referral_story_type=top_picks&tracking={"qid"%3A"6949140816295620397"%2C"mf_story_key"%3A"240609426600109514"%2C"commerce_rank_obj"%3A"{\"target_id\"%3A240609426600109514%2C\"target_type\"%3A6%2C\"primary_position\"%3A0%2C\"ranking_signature\"%3A6470837340636971008%2C\"commerce_channel\"%3A501%2C\"value\"%3A0%2C\"upsell_type\"%3A21%2C\"grouping_info\"%3Anull}"}

looks like the Mark V (500) as it has a smaller table.   Scroll saw SPT on the left.

[FlGatorwood 10,096]

That is the 500 model.  I have 2 of them.  The table is smaller than the 505, 510 and 520.  The 510 and 520 have the same size tables but the rails in back and front are different.  The 505, I am not really familiar with so I won't attempt to speak to it.  Most of these machines as pictured can be had for $500 or less.  The scroll/jigsaw looks in good condition.  So, to deal with this, you walk up with $400 in one pocket and pull it out and carefully count it.  If he/she indicates they will take less, as how much for cash.  The pull out a $50 from another pocket to see if that works.  If you must pull out the 2nd $50, inform them that is all you have.  Normally, it is a deal.  

[Masonsailor 2,751]

They do come on the used market a lot. It’s amazing how many were sold. When we left on our sailing trip I sold several of them along with everything else. When I started up the new shop I started monitoring CL for SS’s and the volume of them on the market in LA/Orange county was amazing. I gathered up six of them within about 3-4 weeks. Three of them were free and were from estate sales. At a certain point they just wanted them gone. One of them saddened me. It was a 510 complete with the SPT’s and all still in their boxes and had never been assembled. Keep your eye out for the estate sales. 
Paul