Wednesday's Wisdom For Woodturners June 17,2020

[lew 18,019]

Well, June is over half way done and summer begins on Saturday! It was almost a "4 For" Mimi and me. When we were married it was the first day of summer (and the longest day of my life the year). This year the first day of summer falls on June 20. Had it been one day later we could have had Fathers Day, first day of summer, longest day of the year and our anniversary all at once!

 

Please remember that our annual fundraiser/raffle is being held. We still have a ways to go to meet our goal. Check out the details at-

 

Our Patriot Turners-

I think the last 2 weeks must have maxed out the Patriot's bandwidth with all of the discussions here on the Turner's Forum.

 

If you missed it last week, @AndrewB was working with his new lathe. We all pitched in to offer advice and the discussion continued well past Wednesday. This picks up the discussion from late Wednesday-

 

@AndrewB showed us some more of his turnings and shared some of his frustrations-

 

Andrew also was wondering about food safe finishes and showed us a new toy he purchased-

Please head over to Andrews posts and see if you can offer any suggestions or ideas.

 

 

Member @Skippack posted a picture of a beautiful maple bowl in our gallery-

Please give him a big thumbs up for this awesome piece!

 

 

@Gerald turned a thin end grain bowl. Gerald explains some of the process and what happens next-

 

 

 

@Gunny gave us a look at his gorgeous, finished Lazy Susan-

 

 

You can read the entire thread here-

 

 

 

What’s Coming Up-

@Gerald gave me a heads-up for another virtual turning demonstration. Please check this from last Week's "Wednesday's..."

 

Don't forget Cindy Drozda has scheduled additional demonstrations-

 

You can find all of the details at http://cindydrozda.com/

 

 

For The Newbies-

Last week we mentioned how the different carbide cutter rakes work on a turning I was making. @Jim from Easy Wood Tools was kind enough to provide this PDF file from Easy Wood Tools that illustrates their cutting characteristics-

 

Why is rake important in woodturning Final rev 6.11.2020.pdf

 

The Woodturning Monthly newsletter arrived. There's a really great article discussing how to cut bowl blanks from trees. Great illustrations! The entire newsletter can be viewed at-

https://www.woodworkersjournal.com/woodturning-monthly/?utm_medium=email

 

 

Expand Your Horizons-

Rick Turns just uploaded a video on turning a bowl from a piece of Mulberry. He then embellished to finished bowl using aan unusual idea-

 

 

 

New Turning Items-

Our new turning item last week was a heavy duty drive spur. @Gerald provided a link to another one This one has removable/replaceable blades-

 

Click on the image for the link to more information.

 

Woodturners Wonders has a new light available-

 

Click on the above image for the link to more information

  

 

Everything Else-

Rick Turns uploaded his weekly list of YouTube turning videos-

 

 

 

I have been following along with @AndrewB's post and his progress with his turnings. Andrew's projects are mostly face glued blanks then mounted with a face plate- perfectly acceptable. But I got to thinking (I know that's dangerous for me!) that instead of flat face glued pieces, longer strips glued-up in a blank can make for some interesting turned patterns when "spindle" turned. Here's an example of what I was thinking-

 

 

 

 

 

 

That elm bowl got finished up and Mimi has already given it away-

 

 

 

 

Just mineral oil and beeswax

 

Safe turning and stay healthy

 

 

[Gunny 52,820]

Another great post packed full of good stuff @lew

 

I do alot of lamination work.  Very interesting looks when turned.

 

  

[AndrewB 2,578]

Hmmm Pepper Mills now THERES a Christmas idea thanks guys.

[FlGatorwood 9,081]

Thank you, Lew.  Always more stuff to learn.  I was watching Ricks Turning video and noticed that his bowl gouge chattered and danced on the tool rest.  Is that normal?  That scares when I run into wood that causes that chatter.  Sometimes, I speed up and that helps.  Also, the more dense the wood, the easier it is for me to turn.  Just talking for someone I know but don't want to identify.  

[FlGatorwood 9,081]

5 minutes ago, AndrewB said:

Hmmm Pepper Mills now THERES a Christmas idea thanks guys.

Now there's a challenge for a young starter.  Can't wait to see pictures of that.  

[Gerald 11,558]

Lew another great post. I really like the idea for the blank glueup.

[Gerald 11,558]

51 minutes ago, FlGatorwood said:

Thank you, Lew.  Always more stuff to learn.  I was watching Ricks Turning video and noticed that his bowl gouge chattered and danced on the tool rest.  Is that normal?  That scares when I run into wood that causes that chatter.  Sometimes, I speed up and that helps.  Also, the more dense the wood, the easier it is for me to turn.  Just talking for someone I know but don't want to identify.  

I would not say normal. Probably dull. Lots of chatter is started by dull tools and then you get those little ribs and away we go.

[HandyDan 87,921]

Thanks Lew.  Tons of info to look through again. 

Your bowl was a keeper but sharing the love works too.. 

[AndrewB 2,578]

Since I've bought two chucks already this may help someone else I've just watched this its a bit on the old side but pretty informational.

 

[lew 18,019]

@AndrewB That's a great video. At about the 3 minute mark, Mike talks about spindle adapters. It's important to know that not all chucks can use just any adapter. Some chucks require a specific adapter from the chuck manufacturer. Check the chuck specs!

[AndrewB 2,578]

Fortunately in my case both of my lathes the Wen and the HF lathe both have the same spindle size of 1 inch with an 8 Threads Per Inch Count.  I was making sure of those things and I even went back and checked the thread count and size before I even bought the new chuck so I wouldn't have to buy an insert for either of them.  I realized it when I was just testing the HF lathe I threw on the Wen face plate to the HF lathe it worked perfectly.  So Wen and HF are both interchangeable.  The HF 13 inch by 33 and 3/8 inch lathe.  I was just being curious and seeing if it would work, sure enough it did.  So at least I wont have to worry about getting mixed up or having to buy double if I want to swap using lathes from the Wen to the HF.

[AndrewB 2,578]

Ordered this chuck off amazon still have to put it together but this is what you get.  I believe this is the Nova G3 Chuck please correct me if I’m wrong.  But everything looks good.  After doing a test run on the lathe and doing some cutting.  It works quite nicely.  How ever I am going to have to do something about the dog gone tool rest thats on there.  Guess I'm going to have to make my own to fit.  A Custom rest.  Luckily I've got a welder and a couple of things to weld it up.  My 3 in one welder should do nicely since it has a nice little plasma cutter should come in handy.  How ever the chuck upon first use and first impressions.  For an INEXPENSIVE chuck.  Id say if you can't afford some of the more expensive ones its a good one.  I recommend it.  Even got a short recording of it as well.  It holds quite tightly on the work piece.  The tennon  once I figured out where and how to cut it.  It was quite simple to do and match up for the chuck itself.  I put the chuck together in less than five minutes myself.  Easy just match up 1 with 1 and ect.  for all 4 parts.  Close the jaws tight to make sure they all line up and then finish tightening the allen screws.  Easy.

https://youtu.be/JjWHSVzi_9A

Edited June 18, 2020 by AndrewB

[lew 18,019]

Maybe it’s just me but the video is labeled as private 

[AndrewB 2,578]

Might be let me see if I can fix that.  That should work now.

Edited June 18, 2020 by AndrewB

[p_toad 5,433]

SNORK!.   Youtube made me sign in like i was looking for adult material or something???   DOUBLE SNORK! 

[lew 18,019]

I was on my phone, maybe that’s my problem 

[lew 18,019]

56 minutes ago, lew said:

Maybe it’s just me but the video is labeled as private 

Working now!

 

It might have been the camera angle but it looks like the tenon shoulder is not tight up against the chuck jaws. Sorry if I'm wrong.

[AndrewB 2,578]

Probably the camera angle I was using an ipad

[lew 18,019]

@Gunny Thank You! Those are some awesome handles. I've used some of celtic knot rolling pin blanks- that had glue-up gaps- for the same thing.

 

 

@AndrewB Thanks! That's just a plain salt shaker. Salt and pepper grinders, with internal mechanisms, are a little more involved. Precise Forstner bits and measurements can be tricky. Especially diameters- lots of the mechanisms are made in Asia but the instructions often indicate imperial dimensions. 

 

That's really a nice looking chuck you got. Also, Thanks for the link to the Mike Peace video on chuck selection.

 

@FlGatorwood Thank You! I think @Gerald nailed it with his explanation of the chatter.

 

@Gerald Thanks! It's an easy way to use old thin rippings and left overs. Thanks, also, for the response to the question on tool chatter.

 

@HandyDan Thank You! I was going to keep it as it was from the tree we had removed last year. I still have a couple of pieces so maybe I can hide one from Mimi.

 

 

 

[AndrewB 2,578]

Plain shaker??? Welp it looks like it would cost somebody bout 100 bucks just to buy that thing.  Not a problem on the video.  I've also been researching on tool rests for my lathe they all seem fairly in expensive I may just buy one out right.   I was just doing some research on the Resin coatings for bowls and mugs looks like thats going to be a spending one so it will have to wait a bit.  I've also got another project start up I'm going to try a candle stick holder again now that I actually have the chuck and it should be twenty times easier going for the left over pine wood that I've got.  I've also got on order a bowl turners tool rest I've got a set of 4 of them coming so we shall see about a review on them once I get them.  I try to keep most of those short sweet and too the point. But these are the ones that I have placed an order for  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079QXGMGD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

They should be here on tuesday at the earliest or even sooner depending on how its being shipped.  At least I'm getting stuff I need for what I want to do in the long run.