John Morris Posted June 7, 2020 Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 "What's It" Basic Rules Reminder For a full run down on this project and rules please go to: "The Patriot Woodworker and MWTCA "What's It" project" Only Patriot Woodworker Members are eligible to participate and receive the award. The MWTCA only accepts a verified source to support your answer, so one should be submitted with your answer, such as a patent, catalog entry, tool book reference, or a respectable website on the subject. Do not let these requirements prevent you from having fun and submitting educated answers on the subject without verification, we can worry about references later. All answers are welcome, as well as healthy debates regarding "What's It". If a verified and referenced answer is not arrived at by the end of each month's "What's It" project, a random draw will be performed for a "One Year MWTCA Club Membership". Only Patriot Woodworker's who participate in this "What's It" topic will be included in the random draw. Additional What's It Rules Unless you are completely sure what this item is, please avoid "definitive statements" that appear that you are without a doubt claiming that you know what the item is. For example stating, "this item is called a "widget xx" used for "insert purpose here". If you are making a definitive statement you must accompany your statement with evidence or proof from a secondary source. An example of acceptable statements within the realm of having fun and educated guesses would be something like this, "I believe it could be", or "It appears it's made for this or that", etc etc etc... Ok ladies and gentlemen, we now have our "What's it" live and ready! The image(s) below is a MWTCA "What's It" image for you to research, and tell us all here in this topic post, just what the heck is it! Project Details The information provided hereon is all the information that is provided, no further information on this item will be added. Text on them says “Mfd for H F LIVERMORE, Pearl St, Boston, Mass” Cal and FlGatorwood 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gene Howe Posted June 7, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) It's an ancient Egyptian pair of buckles for a belt to strap down live candidates prior to mumification. Edited June 7, 2020 by Gene Howe Cal, FlGatorwood, HARO50 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Dudelston Posted June 7, 2020 Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 I did a little checking up on H.F. Livermore. Homer F. Livermore was born in 1864 and died in 1941 and the 1820 Census has his occupation listed as Metal Sales Agent. This ad was one of many published in the early 20's and all dealt with metal tubing and such. This picture looks like a fixture to go on a belt (leather strap is missing). Maybe something to easily carry metal goods while they're forming them??? FlGatorwood, Gunny and Cal 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HandyDan Posted June 7, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) Horse tack. Holds the pole from a horse cart. In this picture it is right where it says trace or tug. Edited June 7, 2020 by HandyDan FlGatorwood, Gerald, Larry Buskirk and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunny Posted June 7, 2020 Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 I am thinking @HandyDan go that one. FlGatorwood and Cal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Dudelston Posted June 7, 2020 Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 Gunny, I think you are correct. Cal and FlGatorwood 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Morris Posted June 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 It's not any kind of horse tack I've seen. Pulling a cart with those would really hurt a horse. This is interesting though. Maybe for a loom? H.F. Livermore Corporation. - Social Networks and Archival Context SNACCOOPERATIVE.ORG FlGatorwood and Cal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Morris Posted June 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 Hmmm, the closer I look at it now, Dan could be right! I got a question in to an equestrian as we speak, perhaps she'll confirm or deny, or no comment. Cal, HandyDan and FlGatorwood 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Morris Posted June 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 It would be this part right Dan? In lieu of leather, they were thinking iron would be a great idea. Cal and FlGatorwood 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandyDan Posted June 7, 2020 Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, John Morris said: It would be this part right Dan? In lieu of leather, they were thinking iron would be a great idea. That is my thought. Seen it called mud catcher too. Cal and FlGatorwood 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Howe Posted June 7, 2020 Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) That confirms it. Dan has good horse sense. Edited June 7, 2020 by Gene Howe Cal, HARO50, FlGatorwood and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandyDan Posted June 7, 2020 Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 There are images of poles down the side of the horse and maybe the metal ones were used as a slide link for these. FlGatorwood and Cal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandyDan Posted June 7, 2020 Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 Cal and FlGatorwood 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunny Posted June 7, 2020 Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 58 minutes ago, John Morris said: This is interesting though. Maybe for a loom? Well my SWAG was a BDSM device from early 1940's FlGatorwood, Gene Howe and Cal 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Dudelston Posted June 7, 2020 Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 I wonder...... If these are tack, are they from his personal livery? Is so, what a family heirloom. FlGatorwood, Cal and Gene Howe 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlGatorwood Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 Having been raised on the farm with cows, horses, mules, pigs/hogs and chickens, I have to go with Dan on this one. Atta boy, Dan. Gunny, Cal, HARO50 and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Morris Posted June 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 Now, Dan just needs to provide a reference! 😊☘️ Cal, FlGatorwood and Gunny 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gunny Posted June 8, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, John Morris said: Dan just needs to provide a reference! I vouch for Dad, a stand up guy. HandyDan, John Morris, Gene Howe and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerald Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 Got here late but at first look I said harness buckle. Most I have seen are leather but I think Dan is onto this . Also from the size I would say it is fro a draft or heavy working harness so @HandyDan you might want to look at those old catalogs. Cal, Gunny and FlGatorwood 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandyDan Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 16 hours ago, John Morris said: Now, Dan just needs to provide a reference! 😊☘️ Working on it. FlGatorwood and Cal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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