Popular Post Pat Meeuwissen Posted January 26, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 26, 2020 Ok, I'm going to stay a new thread to show my progress else it should just get lost in a thread that had nothing to do with it. So far I managed to get the base top drawer frames and top started. I tried three times with a strap clamp and it slipped off every time, the clamp method sucks too but at least I got layer on. Two more to go. p_toad, DuckSoup, Artie and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Posted January 26, 2020 Report Share Posted January 26, 2020 Looks mighty nice Pat, keep those pics coming please. Artie and FlGatorwood 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lew Posted January 26, 2020 Report Share Posted January 26, 2020 Well, you can never have too many clamps! Looks awesome! Artie, FlGatorwood, JimM and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunny Posted January 26, 2020 Report Share Posted January 26, 2020 Looking good so far!! FlGatorwood and Cal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danl Posted January 26, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 26, 2020 You are correct, using strap clamps can be difficult. I elevated my work piece off of my workbench so that I could use F-clamps. The f-clamps held the wood band and the strap in place prior to tightening the strap. It always helps to have a 2nd set of hands for this operation. Danl Artie, Pat Meeuwissen, Cal and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artie Posted January 26, 2020 Report Share Posted January 26, 2020 Looking good Pat. Cal and FlGatorwood 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gerald Posted January 27, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 I do not have a picture but try this . Put a F style clamp on the good sides with just a little space between the bar and the strip. Use wedges to drive in between the bar and strip to get good bond. You can do these as close together as you want to. Cal, FlGatorwood, JimM and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danl Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 Here is a pic of my approach. Danl Cal, DuckSoup and FlGatorwood 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Meeuwissen Posted February 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 Guys, thanks for the advice and encouragement. Dan, I rebuild my strap clamp and got rid of all the hooks and it worked way better this time. Not much time in the shop this week so just one more layer added to the banding. Am planning to use a router jig to trim all three bands to the same level. I see some people using a dovetail bit for this does this ease into the cut more gently to help with blowout? DuckSoup, FlGatorwood and Cal 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckSoup Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 I would add a board 90 digress to a straight or flush trim bit and attach it to your router base. Drill a hole near the edge of the board slightly larger than the bit, basically a flush trim fence. With the router in the horizontal position ease the bit into the wood till the fence sets flat to the table top then hold down the fence and follow the top with the router. FlGatorwood and Cal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Meeuwissen Posted February 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 Bob, thank you for the great explanation. I will use this in some future build for sure. I guess my question wasn't complete enough as what I want to do is ride the jig flat on the laminate top and cut down all 3 layers of banding to about 3/16-1/4" above that surface so the puzzle pieces don't get pushed off the sides of the surface. I'm envisioning a jig with the router mounted off the end of a flat surface just like my circle cutting version but higher to clear the the banding. The exterior of the banding will need something to support the router from tipping. I watched on video I think it was from Jimmy DiResta where he placed a weight on the back side to counteract the tipping. FlGatorwood and Cal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckSoup Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 On 2/3/2020 at 6:28 AM, Pat Meeuwissen said: trim all three bands to the same level. You said level & I thought flush. I see were using a dovetail bit could reduce blow out. I would worry that moving too fast could cause the bit to act like a chisel. Maybe keeping the bit slightly off center to the outside edge would solve this. FlGatorwood, Pat Meeuwissen and Cal 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gerald Posted February 5, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 Here is an idea. Excuse my lousy drawing . Make. A sled like Duck showed (think of it as a router table upside down) but it comes to a point. This point will ride against the edge and and with the router bit set correctly ( that is less height than the sled) you can then make the cut. FlGatorwood, Cal, Pat Meeuwissen and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Meeuwissen Posted February 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2020 Thanks guys, Gerald what type of bit would "you" use? I have a good collection just don't want to tear this thing up after spending so much time on it. Cal and FlGatorwood 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Howe Posted February 6, 2020 Report Share Posted February 6, 2020 with Gerald's jig, I'd use a mortise clean out bit like this. Cal, Pat Meeuwissen and FlGatorwood 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Posted February 6, 2020 Report Share Posted February 6, 2020 I reckon I will be odd man out here, or maybe I am not quite understanding the issue being presented. As I read it, you have your basic table and you have edge banded with solid strips and now (in a break from tradition) want the edge banding to sit proud by 1/4" rather than flush with the table top surface. I am sure you can make a router jig to do an exacting job. How I might tackle this would be to cut a length of 1/4" spacer material with and maybe 2 foot long +/- and on one side cut an arc to match the outside edge of the table top. Doesn't even have to be an exact arc, but closer is better. This would lay flush to the inside of the edging. Using this, I would slide it around the table top and mark a uniform 1/4" thickness on the inside of the edging. Then I would clamp that sacrificial spacer to the table top up against the edging and use a belt sander to get close to the line, moving the spacer around the table top. After the belt sander clean up the balance by hand sanding and ease the edges. No tear out to worry about, if you have a fresh sheet of 12" sandpaper you can simply cut a piece of 1 by 12" long to get a nice long sanding block and result in a pretty darn close to flat surface on the edging. If I haven't understood the issue, please disregard FlGatorwood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerald Posted February 6, 2020 Report Share Posted February 6, 2020 Any straight bit should work as Gene showed it should be wider than the strips so that it is all cut across in one pass. If the cut is deeper than 1/8 I would so this in several passes. Note if you enter this cut too fast you could blow out the outside. Another thought on this cut is to take it easy as cutting the edge of a thin surface is tricky. Try to practice by setting up a trial blank with straight trim to get the feel of what this cut will do and how much you can take at one pass. DuckSoup, Pat Meeuwissen, Cal and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Howe Posted February 6, 2020 Report Share Posted February 6, 2020 And, enter from the outside. Less chance of a blow out. Cal, DuckSoup, FlGatorwood and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Meeuwissen Posted February 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2020 14 hours ago, Gene Howe said: And, enter from the outside. Less chance of a blow out. This definitely what I was planning, and very fine cuts, if I go around 5 times to cut an 1/8 I'm ok with that. 20 hours ago, Cal said: I reckon I will be odd man out here, or maybe I am not quite understanding the issue being presented. As I read it, you have your basic table and you have edge banded with solid strips and now (in a break from tradition) want the edge banding to sit proud by 1/4" rather than flush with the table top surface. I am sure you can make a router jig to do an exacting job. How I might tackle this would be to cut a length of 1/4" spacer material with and maybe 2 foot long +/- and on one side cut an arc to match the outside edge of the table top. Doesn't even have to be an exact arc, but closer is better. This would lay flush to the inside of the edging. Using this, I would slide it around the table top and mark a uniform 1/4" thickness on the inside of the edging. Then I would clamp that sacrificial spacer to the table top up against the edging and use a belt sander to get close to the line, moving the spacer around the table top. After the belt sander clean up the balance by hand sanding and ease the edges. No tear out to worry about, if you have a fresh sheet of 12" sandpaper you can simply cut a piece of 1 by 12" long to get a nice long sanding block and result in a pretty darn close to flat surface on the edging. If I haven't understood the issue, please disregard Cal, I have never built one of these before but the examples I found online all have a small lip as not to let the puzzle pieces slide off the edge. Over such a large radius my belt sanding skill would not produce my nice even result. I do have myself made a long sanding block using some sanding belts and do you use them frequently. Thanks for your support. By the way what's the fun of doing the norm, not in my nature. Cal and FlGatorwood 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Meeuwissen Posted February 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2020 15 hours ago, Gerald said: Any straight bit should work as Gene showed it should be wider than the strips so that it is all cut across in one pass. If the cut is deeper than 1/8 I would so this in several passes. Note if you enter this cut too fast you could blow out the outside. Another thought on this cut is to take it easy as cutting the edge of a thin surface is tricky. Try to practice by setting up a trial blank with straight trim to get the feel of what this cut will do and how much you can take at one pass. Thanks, while gluing on the last layer I will make up a sample and do some practicing. FlGatorwood and Cal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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