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33 minutes ago, steven newman said:

Quickest way to get a framing square out of square......just drop it.:ArguingSmileys:...ever wonder why some of the older framing squares have "dimples" where the two arms meet?   A center punch is used to correct said dropped squares  back into square.:TwoThumbsUp:...count the dimples, and figure out how clumsy that Carpenter was....:BangingHead:

 

 

Mine was new and i had to dimple it. Shouda checked in the store.

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One time..while shopping for a speed square....had to sort through almost the entire rack, to find one that was square...

Find a shelf in the store, close to a post that hold the shelf...and check the outsides of the square for...square. 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Woodbutcherbynight said:

Steve's neighbor, "Yeah, can I borrow a square."

Steve:  "Umm, no I only have one."                          Of 15 different types!  :JawDrop:

 

Now for those wondering what's the difference and who cares anyway.

 

This is a Carpenters square.

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Special thanks to @steven newman and @Gene Howe for posting stuff about squares years ago.  Got me away from carpentry squares and into using the ones Steve has show for more precise work.  Made a huge difference.

 

But I lack the collection that @steven newman and others have.

 

I don't think I've used that framing square since we built the house. Well, I might have used to square up the two slabs a river table. 

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I never use a nail set to set my framing square I simple strike it on the table depending on how it out of square. Works like a charm. As far a small squares if there out there used for general work like decks. Otherwise I use them for furniture or cabinetry...

 

I was out on a cabinet job when we notice the framing square out. The old carpenter who was I  his 70's just Wacked it on the floor and was square again. 

 

A speed square is worst squares I ever bought....

Edited by BillyJack

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42 minutes ago, BillyJack said:

Never bought one that was actually square out of the store. I think older maybe 80-90's they might have n been more dependable but the newer one are just stamped crap.

Is there a way to square a speed square? Luckily both of mine are OK. 

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I have mine more  for marking angles....like for rafters and such...Plastic ones..you can strike a new line along the edge, and whittle to that line...clean up with a block plane.  I prefer the plastic speed squares to the cheaper metal things...

 

I'd rather not abuse squares, by smacking down on something to "Square it up",,,,too good a chance of either going too far...bending one of the blades...or causing a crack in the corner... I have more respect for my tools.

 

BTW: NOT a nail set...use the center punch you use for drilling in metal.... much neater, more control. 

Edited by steven newman

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With our version of "This Old House" the last thing you wanted to use was a square, or level.

If you tried to square it, it looked angled. If you tried to level it, it looked crooked. :CoveringEyes:...:PullingHair:...:BangingHead:

 

Edit: I should have mentioned this is a pre 1870 farmhouse.

Edited by Larry Buskirk

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Ok I understand how to square up a framing square

but

how do you square up a carpentry square---the ones with the wooden "handle"---now that I've gotten rid of all the ones I inherited.

 

You can't punch the outside or inside corner due to the wood

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