Larry Buskirk Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, John Morris said: @Larry Buskirk, on the subject of dad's, your sig line reminded me, when I was a kid and I had a boo boo or aches and pains, dad never showed much compassion for any of it, he'd dismiss it with "Hey John, don't sweat it, it'll feel better when it stops hurting!". I've always said the same to my kids since they were little, it confused the heck out of em at first, now they just moan when I state it to them. My wife has a hard time getting me to go to the Dr., If it doesn't need stiches or it's not broke I'm not going. When we were redoing the roof I fell through a skylight opening removing tarps and busted 3 ribs one in two places. That was on a Saturday. I climbed down through the opening only to have the wife meet me at the bottom of the stairs. She could tell right away that something had happened. I caught my breath and hoisted several more sheets of plywood up the ladder. On Monday the foreman at work noticed me moving rather stiffly and asked why. When I told her she wouldn't allow me to go to work until I saw a Dr.. So I went and came back to work with the prognosis of having 3 ribs fractured in 4 places. Since I refused pain killers that they wouldn't allow me to work while on I went back to work. I'll stop when it doesn't hurt. John Morris, Cal, FlGatorwood and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Buskirk Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 14 minutes ago, John Morris said: What's your opinion Larry using a 10" on an 8"? My biggest concern was speed off the outside diameter, turning too fast beyond manufacture specs that it could be a danger somehow. John, As long as the motor speed is at or below the recommended speed for the blade it should be fine. The blade will still be spinning at the same speed just running more teeth through the material being cut. You may have to feed the material more slowly so you don't bog the motor down, it would have more to do with the H.P. of the motor being able to run the larger blade through the material you are cutting. John Morris and Cal 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Howe Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 Larry, that's why God gave us table saws and routers. IMHO, the RAS is Satan's invention. John, lots of Shopsmith guys use undersized blades. But then, we can control the speed, can't we? Cal, Artie, John Morris and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aaronc Posted July 27, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 First and foremost,...if I'm someday lucky enough to make it to 86 standing in my shop somewhere on my own legs with the sun on my face doing things I love to do,......well,...if only I am to be so lucky. Those are fantastic pics and a great story. Not sure what he thinks about it but I can't imagine how lucky your dad was to grow up in the catskills during that time period either. The large set of moose antlers are impressive ! That's a lot of bone,...and a basket full of cool extras to boot. Gotta ask,..did he hunt growing up in those mountains,..are any of the racks I see throughout his shop in the background some of his kills ?? Thanks for posting this. -Aaron Cal, Artie, FlGatorwood and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Buskirk Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 @Gene Howe, Every tool has it's uses, they are only as safe as the user. The RAS can do things I wouldn't even attempt on a TS, and vice versa. When I was a kid my dad knew a guy that did pretty much everything with a RAS. He would/could pretty much build a whole house with it. FlGatorwood, Cal and John Morris 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post John Morris Posted July 27, 2019 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 30 minutes ago, Larry Buskirk said: When I was a kid my dad knew a guy that did pretty much everything with a RAS. He would/could pretty much build a whole house with it. That was my Dad, Larry. His shop was very small, RAS and Drill Press that was it. He did all his ripping and dado and cross cut work on that ol RAS. So did I, I was ripping boards on the RAS at the age of 9yrs. I am still considering an RAS for my current shop setup, an old timey one. Something like this bad boy would be nice. Artie, Gunny, FlGatorwood and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Al B Posted July 27, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 (edited) Glad to see your dad is still enjoying his workshop John. I do agree with Gene that the ras is satan's invention. Got rid of mine years ago after a few close calls,especially when trying to rip boards. I'll be turning 88 in a couple of weeks and have to admit, the years are catching up with me. I definitely need a chair in the shop to take rest periods, even with small projects. Maybe I should try your dad's hands on the hips solution to keep me upright and active. Keeping active is the key to growing older. You can't let your body just decay from sitting around doing nothing. It's great to see that you and your dad have such a great relationship and from the looks of your dad, it will continue for many years to come. I love the view from his home. Edited July 27, 2019 by Al B Cal, John Morris, Gene Howe and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gene Howe Posted July 27, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 @Larry Buskirk, I had one for several years. I was skeered of it every time I turned it on. My trepidation probably made it more dangerous than it should've been. A contractor offered me $150 for it and I jumped on it. FlGatorwood, Al B, Artie and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Larry Buskirk Posted July 27, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 @Gene Howe I guess it depends what piece of equipment you're most used to running. It probably skeered you more because you could see the blade better on the RAS. I've seen a few episodes of what happens when fingers get in the way of a blade on a TS which is better hidden by what you are cutting. I actually get more nervous with the TS due to that fact. I myself prefer to use a hand held CS for sheet goods, I don't care how big of a work table a TS has. I'm at the height that a kickback gets you just enough below the belt. DAMHIKT But it's like I already stated every tool has it's uses and are only as safe as the user. Artie, John Morris, Cal and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gene Howe Posted July 27, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 Yeah, the CS and a guide is much better than the TS for sheet goods and, for getting a straight edge on rough lumber. Ths SCMS does my cross cuts. Cal, John Morris, Gunny and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artie Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 7 hours ago, Gene Howe said: Larry, that's why God gave us table saws and routers. IMHO, the RAS is Satan's invention. John, lots of Shopsmith guys use undersized blades. But then, we can control the speed, can't we? I thought it was because we are DIFFERENT FlGatorwood, John Morris and Cal 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gunny Posted July 28, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Artie said: I thought it was because we are DIFFERENT Lets go with Special. FlGatorwood, Al B, Cal and 4 others 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlGatorwood Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 John, thank you for the stories and pictures. What a view! It is worth living there. Like others have so well said, enjoy every minute with your dad and learn all you can from his life. Some really good lessons. My dad checked out at age 66, his dad checked out at age 70. Mother's dad left at age 90. Now, I am 71 and feeling all the miles. But, I have things to get done and no time for sitting down. I spend more time here than anywhere. Yes, if you can make notes, it is well worth it. Before mother expired, I asked specific questions and have information that none of her siblings or mine knew. It's a special memory. Also, I hope you get that whole roof coated in time. John Morris, Larry Buskirk, Artie and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post John Morris Posted July 28, 2019 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 7 hours ago, Al B said: Maybe I should try your dad's hands on the hips solution to keep me upright and active. Hey Al, it works for him, and all the old farmers of his time, give it a try! 7 hours ago, Al B said: It's great to see that you and your dad have such a great relationship and from the looks of your dad, it will continue for many years to come. He is so healthy, he amazes his doctor every time he is seen. About the only thing he is watching is high blood pressure, he take a few meds for that, but that's it, he's trucking pretty good. Gunny, Artie, Cal and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post John Morris Posted July 28, 2019 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 22 hours ago, Gene Howe said: John, lots of Shopsmith guys use undersized blades. But then, we can control the speed, can't we? YES! I love my Smith, that's right, speed control, what a neat feature on the Smiths. Gene Howe, Al B, FlGatorwood and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post John Morris Posted July 28, 2019 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 1 hour ago, FlGatorwood said: John, thank you for the stories and pictures. What a view! It is worth living there. Like others have so well said, enjoy every minute with your dad and learn all you can from his life. Some really good lessons. My dad checked out at age 66, his dad checked out at age 70. Mother's dad left at age 90. Now, I am 71 and feeling all the miles. But, I have things to get done and no time for sitting down. I spend more time here than anywhere. Yes, if you can make notes, it is well worth it. Before mother expired, I asked specific questions and have information that none of her siblings or mine knew. It's a special memory. Also, I hope you get that whole roof coated in time. Gator, thank you so much for your comments, he is doing well up there, and yes, that view is pretty, the images don't do it justice. I most certainly will take notes, and you know what, I have to get him to go through all our family photographs from waaaaay back, and tag them with names, because I don't know 80 percent of the folks in those images, from the late 1800's up to my birth, he knows them all, I need to get him to sit down and help me catalog them all, I have boxes of them. Thank you for your kind comments sir. Gene Howe, Cal, FlGatorwood and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 I've said all along, when I get old I can be happy with a small home... but I need a 3 car garage/shop to spend my time in!!! Y'all are very lucky to have your dad in such great shape at 86, independent still and enjoying his days. When did your dad leave the Catskills? What did he do after leaving? Does he still have any family connections back there? Have you ever been there to see the area where he grew up? Interesting that you point out his habit of hands-on-hips. It is a normal standing arrangement with old farmers up there, but I never really noticed it, or the lack of it, after I left the area. How about any verbal expressions from the area, has he carried any of those with him - like "A-uh"? I have strong recollections of that common expression, usually said twice - "A-uh A-uh" I shared a birthday with my dad. He had a massive heart attack and died at 60 - while doing the evening milking. Let me tell you, I had a pretty rough 60th birthday, and likely that whole year. Now, I look at each day as the gift it is. I learned after our kids were grown that I was called by all the neighborhood kids "plant man" because I always spent so much time in the yard. I was happy with that, and a little disappointed that I hadn't learned it earlier Artie, Gunny, FlGatorwood and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Buskirk Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 20 hours ago, Gene Howe said: But then, we can control the speed, can't we? Those of us with older machines can also change speeds, but you would swear that the method is also one of ... 20 hours ago, Gene Howe said: Satan's inventions. FlGatorwood, Artie and Cal 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Howe Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 23 minutes ago, Larry Buskirk said: Those of us with older machines can also change speeds, but you would swear that the method is also one of ... Of what older machines and methods do you speak? Changing pulley sizes, maybe? As with an ER? Artie, Cal and FlGatorwood 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Buskirk Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, Gene Howe said: Of what older machines and methods do you speak? Changing pulley sizes, maybe? As with an ER? ..ER.. As to machines and methods. As you know most any of the older belt drive machines either are, or can be fitted with a multiple step pulley. But this only gives you a few speeds to choose from. Sooo...We have to go a bit farther here. To make it a little more "Fun" we add a few more step pulleys on a jackshaft, and run that from a motor through another set of step pulleys. That could even be taken another step further by more step pulleys through yet another jackshaft. Some people do so with VFD drives using 3-Phase motors to power their older machines. I myself have never done so myself. Cal, Gerald and FlGatorwood 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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