Gene Howe Posted April 10, 2019 Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 He nearly had me convinced. Cal and Gunny 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stick486 Posted April 10, 2019 Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 needs magnifier... Gunny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadio Posted April 10, 2019 Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 I gotta get one of them. Herb Gunny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Howe Posted April 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 8 hours ago, Stick486 said: needs magnifier... And, a math degree. That video exemplifies why I shun any measuring device that relies on numbers. PeteM, Gunny and Cal 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandyDan Posted April 10, 2019 Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 Once learned the metric system would be easier. IMHO. Cal and PeteM 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gunny Posted April 10, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 1 hour ago, HandyDan said: Once learned the metric system would be easier. IMHO. Think of it like this, it is like a 2nd language. If you learned and can use both it expands your knowledge and ability. That said I find it hard sometimes to not mix the English with the Ukrainian when speaking. Okay, sometimes when I want to really let someone have it prudence demands I use Ukrainian. This way I stay employed. Cal, Artie, Gene Howe and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Howe Posted April 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 1 hour ago, HandyDan said: Once learned the metric system would be easier. IMHO. Probably but, why bother? In my junk drawer sits a Stanley tape measure in inches and 1/10ths. Not metric but it provides the same ease of calculation. I have to admit, when measuring is critical, I do use it. That's rare, though. Gunny, Artie and Cal 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandyDan Posted April 10, 2019 Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Gene Howe said: Probably but, why bother? In my junk drawer sits a Stanley tape measure in inches and 1/10ths. Not metric but it provides the same ease of calculation. I have to admit, when measuring is critical, I do use it. That's rare, though. Standardization. Ever try to measure mounting holes on something and wonder why they put them 7 and 31/64 appox. inches apart? Well it was probably 19cm. Edited April 10, 2019 by HandyDan Cal and Gunny 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ron Altier Posted April 10, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 I worked using the metric system for many years in chemistry and instrumentation. It is a better and more precise system. Having said that, I do not use it because all that is used here in the US is our standard system. When woodworking a sixteenth of an inch is just about as precise as you will ever need. Wood expands and shrinks, why worry about more precise measurements? Gene Howe, Cal, CharlieL and 3 others 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunny Posted April 10, 2019 Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 34 minutes ago, Ron Altier said: I do not use it because all that is used here in the US is our standard system. Plywood comes in metric sizes rebranded to be standard. Ask any auto tech how much industry mixes standard with metric. We all have to own two sets of everything, metric and standard. One thing that really bugs me is they seem to no longer teach even how to use Imperial measurements. The apprentice I have working with me in the evenings needed to start from ground zero to understand fractions. Oddly he prefers metric, still made him learn both though. Cal, Artie, Ron Altier and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Howe Posted April 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 There are certainly a very many pursuits that require strict standardisation and a high level of precision. IMHO, most woodworking isn't one of them. Metric or imperial is of little consequence to us who don't use either. So what, if plywood isn't a true 3/4" ? I build to fit. Not to some arbitrary measurement. HARO50, Gunny, Cal and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Altier Posted April 10, 2019 Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 One big thing I didn't mention, our age generation (older people) we like what we are used to and metric system just isn't filling a need we have. I just ask my phone to convert it for me and I'm OK HARO50, Gunny, Artie and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dadio Posted April 10, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 Really it is all numerical, all you really have to know is how to count the little black marks. I will say the metric little black marks seem easier to count,I think in imperial,but use both by just counting the marks. Herb Gunny, HARO50, Artie and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schnewj Posted April 10, 2019 Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 35 minutes ago, Dadio said: Really it is all numerical, all you really have to know is how to count the little black marks. I will say the metric little black marks seem easier to count,I think in imperial,but use both by just counting the marks. Herb ...so, an inch and an eigth is 1 and four ticks? Cal, Dadio, HARO50 and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunny Posted April 10, 2019 Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Gene Howe said: There are certainly a very many pursuits that require strict standardisation and a high level of precision. Like this?? HARO50, Artie, Dadio and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadio Posted April 10, 2019 Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 4 hours ago, schnewj said: ...so, an inch and an eigth is 1 and four ticks? 2 ticks if ea.tick is 1/16, and 4 ticks if ea. tick is 1/32, and 8 ticks if ea. tick is 1/64 ,But it is when I measure something I will just take the number plus so many black marks and I don't care what the black marks are, kind of like mark and cut, like Gene does. I like math, but when an architect puts the rise of a set of stairs in as 6 5/18" I go bonkers,and I have had that happen. Herb Artie, Cal, Gene Howe and 4 others 3 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roly Posted April 11, 2019 Report Share Posted April 11, 2019 You do realize WoodGears.com does do April Fools day jokes and this project was marked April, 2019 on the video. Just saying . Roly Gunny, Cal and Dadio 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Howe Posted April 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Roly said: You do realize WoodGears.com does do April Fools day jokes and this project was marked April, 2019 on the video. Just saying . Roly I'm a bit slow but, suspicion did set in when he started with the math. Edited April 11, 2019 by Gene Howe Gunny, Dadio and Cal 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schnewj Posted April 11, 2019 Report Share Posted April 11, 2019 13 hours ago, Dadio said: 2 ticks if ea.tick is 1/16, and 4 ticks if ea. tick is 1/32, and 8 ticks if ea. tick is 1/64 ,But it is when I measure something I will just take the number plus so many black marks and I don't care what the black marks are, kind of like mark and cut, like Gene does. I like math, but when an architect puts the rise of a set of stairs in as 6 5/18" I go bonkers,and I have had that happen. Herb I was lucky to have some really good, experienced, contractor superintendents over my years of overseeing construction and maintenance activities. Knowing that our "design engineers" usually didn't have a clue, or care that the piping interfered with the electrical or the shut off valves were under a catwalk and unreachable, usually, found a safe and solid work-a-round/design change. Many times I had to go over the "engineer's" head a force them to sign off on the field change. Most were arrogant, "I can do no wrong", until their boss saw how really inept and uncooperative they really were. Without that field experience available we would have built/installed some really crappy things. I have more respect and trust for people with actual field experience then I do for most engineers with NO field experience. 6 5/18" rise! Boy, I would love to have had a conversation with whoever signed off on those drawings. Gunny, Ron Altier and Cal 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stick486 Posted April 11, 2019 Report Share Posted April 11, 2019 15 minutes ago, schnewj said: 6 5/18" rise! that had to be a misprint on the print... Cal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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