Ron Altier Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 Is there a BEST way to drill a hole thru a cylinder that you have turned down. If you have a piece 8" long X 2" in dia and you want a quarter inch hole going completely thru it, is there a best way to accomplish a straight hole, end to end? My attempts were OK, but could be better. I know someone has a tip or two to share. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandyDan Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 It i just about impossible to do. Getting it started dead center and strait is best can do. Drill from both ends. Sharp drill and clear the chips often. Heat and chip build up are the enemy. FlGatorwood, Cal and Dadio 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunny Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 I made this for doing what you are talking about but I use it for drilling holes in metal or plastic pipe. Or from HF a smaller version https://www.harborfreight.com/self-centering-drill-press-jig-92046.html CharlieL and Cal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wichman3 Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 What is your current technique and drill bit material? What are the issues that lead you to the conclusion that you can do better? For long straight holes I; 1. use a jig; the above jig or one like it, clamped to the drill press table (table turned to vertical), cylinder clamped to the jig. 2. use the shortest, long drill bit you can find. Size the length of drill bit to the project, don't use an 18" long bit to drill an 8 " deep hole. 3. use the best alloy, I've found the cobalt drill bits are the stiffest, as an added benefit they had a high heat tolerance. 4. use the right speed; my chart says 3000 for softwood, 1500 for hardwood (twist drill bits) chart also states to reduce speed on end grain, so I would cut the speed about 10%. If you have to raise the drill press table to drill deeper holes (multiple times), clamp the bar that the table rides on (notched bar on the side of the column), this is to prevent the table from shifting side to side while lifting the table for another pass. One clamp low, another clamp just below the table mount. FlGatorwood and Cal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gene Howe Posted February 16, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 I've used a bell hanger bit successfully. But, that was boring horizontally. Just one advantage of the Shopsmith. John Morris, Dadio, Cal and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Altier Posted February 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 Sorry, I didn't make it clear........I want to have the best way to drill the length of the cylinder Cal, Gunny, Dadio and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye10 Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Wichman3 said: What is your current technique and drill bit material? What are the issues that lead you to the conclusion that you can do better? For long straight holes I; 1. use a jig; the above jig or one like it, clamped to the drill press table (table turned to vertical), cylinder clamped to the jig. 2. use the shortest, long drill bit you can find. Size the length of drill bit to the project, don't use an 18" long bit to drill an 8 " deep hole. 3. use the best alloy, I've found the cobalt drill bits are the stiffest, as an added benefit they had a high heat tolerance. 4. use the right speed; my chart says 3000 for softwood, 1500 for hardwood (twist drill bits) chart also states to reduce speed on end grain, so I would cut the speed about 10%. If you have to raise the drill press table to drill deeper holes (multiple times), clamp the bar that the table rides on (notched bar on the side of the column), this is to prevent the table from shifting side to side while lifting the table for another pass. One clamp low, another clamp just below the table mount. I would also like to know how you are doing it now. Cal, Artie and FlGatorwood 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Steve Krumanaker Posted February 16, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 I would do it on the lathe. Start with a piece slightly over sized. Turn a tenon on either end. Chuck one end and drill about 1/2 way. Turn it end for end and repeat. Use the holes as your center and turn it round. I know you've already turned the cylinder, much better to drill first. In Lieu of that, I agree with Gene. Shopsmith is ideal for this task. Steve. Gerald, Cal, Dadio and 4 others 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lew Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 Using a short bit to go as deep as possible and then use a longer bit will help. Drilling from both ends as @Steve Krumanaker recommended is another excellent procedure. I keep the lathe speed very low and go very slow. Cal, FlGatorwood, Gunny and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadio Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 I have seen it done by ripping it lengthwise, or starting with 2 ,1/2 diameter pieces and routing a groove w/a half round bit lengthwise, then glueing the pieces together to make the hole. This works well in a piece too long to drill. Just saying Herb Gunny and Cal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Altier Posted February 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 I have drilled the holes both ways, on the drill press and on the lathe. My results could have been better, but worked satisfactorily. What kind of drill bits do you find are best and what speed for that type of bit bit? Thanks for all the input, I'm still learning Artie, Cal and FlGatorwood 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lew Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 I start with a brad point bit. Then, if I need a longer on, switch over to a standard twist bit. Cal, Artie and FlGatorwood 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stick486 Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 Aircraft Extension Drills..... Gunny, Cal and Artie 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Morris Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 Hey Ron, what's your accuracy standards? Is the hole for chord through a lamp base? Or do you need higher accuracy than that? Cal and FlGatorwood 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandyDan Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, HandyDan said: Getting it started dead center and strait is best can do. Drill from both ends. Sharp drill and clear the chips often. Heat and chip build up are the enemy 4 hours ago, Steve Krumanaker said: I would do it on the lathe. Start with a piece slightly over sized. Turn a tenon on either end. Chuck one end and drill about 1/2 way. Turn it end for end and repeat. Use the holes as your center and turn it round. I know you've already turned the cylinder, much better to drill first. 2 hours ago, lew said: Using a short bit to go as deep as possible and then use a longer bit will help. Drilling from both ends as @Steve Krumanaker recommended is another excellent procedure. I keep the lathe speed very low and go very slow. ALL of the above. For the bit get a good brand named bit with a full flute. The longer flutes help to clear the chips better. Edited February 16, 2019 by HandyDan FlGatorwood, Artie, Cal and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Altier Posted February 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 2 hours ago, John Morris said: Hey Ron, what's your accuracy standards? Is the hole for chord through a lamp base? Or do you need higher accuracy than that? My wife has a favorite antique heavy aluminum cooking pots with a long wood handles. The handles have deteriorated over the years and I made a replacement. I drilled it on the drill press from each end and turned it round. The hole was not straight and it fit after some persuasion. So I was wondering..........is there a better way? Dadio, Cal, FlGatorwood and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyFN Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 I would do it on a lathe. Shouldn't be too had on there. FlGatorwood and Cal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye10 Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 There is a lot of twist bits on the internet that are 12" long. Just look for "Extra long twist bits". https://www.amazon.com/Neiko-10260B-Heavy-Duty-Steel-Drill/dp/B006E5PYJC/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1550370943&sr=8-7&keywords=extra+long+drill+bits+for+steel Cal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlGatorwood Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 Like others have said, you can do this fairly easy on a lathe. If you have a chuck that you can mount to taper into the tail stock, you can start the bore with a brad point or double point bit. The reason for those bits is that they don't wobble out of the intended hole. After the hole starts, you can change into a long bit of any point as long as the bore size is the same. You can advance the bit using the tailstock or if using a Shopsmith, you can advance the quill. Of course, as you well know, you want to get your stock straight before boring or you may come out a side. You can get some scraps to practice and when you get your technique down, you can do the real. That handle looks fine and should last for many years. Cal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Altier Posted February 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 On 2/16/2019 at 11:51 AM, HandyDan said: ALL of the above. For the bit get a good brand named bit with a full flute. The longer flutes help to clear the chips better. Thanks I definitely try that Great suggestions........Thanks to all FlGatorwood and Cal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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