Popular Post Steve Krumanaker Posted October 30, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 One of the bowls we did last week with Glenn Lucas was a milk paint bowl. The technique works best with an open grain wood like ash or oak. The bowl is turned close to finish and then wire brushed to open the grain. After brushing it gets painted with milk paint. After painting the final details are cut, in this case, the rim and the bead. It's a neat effect I think but probably not for everyone. We also talked about form and balancing the grain in a bowl. Form is not perfect on this one, I can see a little flat spot in it. A guy like Glenn considers nuances and details most of us never would. Anyway, I wanted to do something on the bottom so I didn't finish mine until I got home. It is finished with mineral oil and beeswax. Steve lew, Stick486, Dadio and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lew Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 That is really beautiful. I've never used milk paint but have used acrylics to accent texturing. Painting can really add interest to a piece, especially when not over-done. The flat is barely noticable. The last bowl I turned, I thought I had the curve done perfectly, until I took it off the lathe Cal and Steve Krumanaker 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerald Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 I have enough trouble seeing flats in person, cannot tell in person. I like the look of milk paint just cannot visualize the form best for it. Took a class at East Tennessee with Dixie Biggs and there was a lady teaching using natural pigments to make milk pain and that was very interesting. Maybe you should start putting what you do on the bottom.... inside the bowl. Cal, Grandpadave52 and Steve Krumanaker 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpadave52 Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 Well, the only flat spot I can depict is the bottom and top rim. Interesting technique and unique look. IMO, You did right waiting to finish the bottom. It really makes this bowl stand out right side or or inverted. Cal and Steve Krumanaker 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandyDan Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 That is very nice. I like the fact that it is a flat paint and the grain is still visible too. Steve Krumanaker and Cal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAB Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 "A guy like Glenn considers nuances and details most of us never would." I don't sweat what others think of my work. Think you can do better, grab some lumber and knock yourself out. If you and the recipient like it, that's all that matters. matter of fact, if you don't like it, but the recipient does, that's still a win. Anyone can be a critic, just sit back and find fault. easiest job in the world. I think it looks very nice. Al B, Steve Krumanaker, Cal and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Krumanaker Posted October 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 9 minutes ago, DAB said: "A guy like Glenn considers nuances and details most of us never would." I don't sweat what others think of my work. Think you can do better, grab some lumber and knock yourself out. If you and the recipient like it, that's all that matters. matter of fact, if you don't like it, but the recipient does, that's still a win. Anyone can be a critic, just sit back and find fault. easiest job in the world. I think it looks very nice. I will have to disagree with you on this one. For starters, I can see that top curve could be a little better, no one pointed that out to me. As for someone like Glenn critiquing my work, I welcome it and I paid a lot of money last week for the privilege of having him look at what I was doing and helping me to do it better, which he did. It's not often a person gets a chance to learn from a world class artist and I will try to learn from him any chance I get. Steve Cal, lew and DuckSoup 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAB Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 we'll have to disagree on this. if i paid to learn how to turn a pleasing bowl, i'd expect some discussion of the elements of a good bowl. proportions (height/width ratio), rim thickness, source of external curve shape (perhaps some math is involved?), examples of historical "good" bowls compared with "bad" bowls, so i had some idea of what history has settled on as "good". then i'd have some basis for knowing if what i'm turning is approaching that standard or not. what i would not be looking for is someone to critique MY work for a perceived flaw that they didn't like that I didn't notice. i'll admit i have not taken any woodworking classes since HS, and that was basic tool use and not much on design aspects. so i've developed my lines on my own over time. i like it. that's enough for me. that other thread with the really complicated bowl/vase, it was a very involved piece, but as I noted, i shoot for beauty and utility, not just an art piece. so don't be afraid of making a mistake (as viewed by yourself). i've made my share. most don't get shown. keep up the good work. Steve Krumanaker, DuckSoup and Cal 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Steve Krumanaker Posted October 31, 2018 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 1 hour ago, DAB said: we'll have to disagree on this. if i paid to learn how to turn a pleasing bowl, i'd expect some discussion of the elements of a good bowl. proportions (height/width ratio), rim thickness, source of external curve shape (perhaps some math is involved?), examples of historical "good" bowls compared with "bad" bowls, so i had some idea of what history has settled on as "good". then i'd have some basis for knowing if what i'm turning is approaching that standard or not. what i would not be looking for is someone to critique MY work for a perceived flaw that they didn't like that I didn't notice. i'll admit i have not taken any woodworking classes since HS, and that was basic tool use and not much on design aspects. so i've developed my lines on my own over time. i like it. that's enough for me. that other thread with the really complicated bowl/vase, it was a very involved piece, but as I noted, i shoot for beauty and utility, not just an art piece. so don't be afraid of making a mistake (as viewed by yourself). i've made my share. most don't get shown. keep up the good work. Dab, I'm going to try one more time and I'll say it as plain as know how to do so. No other person, and that includes Glenn Lucas, pointed out to me this bowl has a little flat spot. I saw it on my own the very second it was too late to do anything about it. What you say you would expect is exactly what I got from my week with Glenn, we discussed ancient pottery, Viking bowls, why that shape worked for them, why it still works, the rule of thirds and the golden mean, etc. etc. Richard Raffin is considered to be a modern master on form. To put it in Glenn's words, people been ripping him off for 500 years. We also spent time on technique, which is everything to a wood turner. We spent time on what works, what does not, why it works, why it does not. Did I mention we spent a lot of time on technique? All in all, this last week will cost me around $1500.00 with transportation, lodging, and tuition costs. If I never sell another piece and I don't really care if I do or not, it is some of the best money I ever spent. I am a better wood turner for it. Steve p_toad, DAB, Grandpadave52 and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpadave52 Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 11 hours ago, Steve Krumanaker said: One of the bowls we did last week with Glenn Lucas was a milk paint bowl. The technique works best with an open grain wood like ash or oak. Steve, I've been pondering on this...I assume this is not necessarily a new technique, but maybe a revival of sorts? For dummies like me, does it have a specific technique name or period when it was popular? In a way, it reminds me of something one might have seen done with Shaker furniture; mainly flat work? Just curious and trying to get smarter (well less dumb). I could see where someone might want to do this type of finish on flat work too. In fact, it gave me a couple of ideas. Now I just have to remember them until next spring/summer. Cal and Steve Krumanaker 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Krumanaker Posted October 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 7 hours ago, Grandpadave52 said: Steve, I've been pondering on this...I assume this is not necessarily a new technique, but maybe a revival of sorts? For dummies like me, does it have a specific technique name or period when it was popular? In a way, it reminds me of something one might have seen done with Shaker furniture; mainly flat work? Just curious and trying to get smarter (well less dumb). I could see where someone might want to do this type of finish on flat work too. In fact, it gave me a couple of ideas. Now I just have to remember them until next spring/summer. Hi Dave They say there is nothing new under the sun. With that, I have not seen this technique before. I remember back in the 80's it was popular to leave a table top natural and paint the apron and legs so I guess that would be very similar. Steve Cal and Grandpadave52 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Krumanaker Posted October 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 17 hours ago, Gerald said: I have enough trouble seeing flats in person, cannot tell in person. I like the look of milk paint just cannot visualize the form best for it. Took a class at East Tennessee with Dixie Biggs and there was a lady teaching using natural pigments to make milk pain and that was very interesting. Maybe you should start putting what you do on the bottom.... inside the bowl. My wife suggested that as well, and I've thought about it, just haven't found the right piece yet. Now I think about it, I have kind of done that on some of my basket weave platters. Still had to put something on the bottom though. In one of her DVD's Cindy Drozda mentions rewarding a person for picking up a piece and looking at the bottom. She's fairly successful so I guess that influenced me some. Steve Gerald, p_toad, Grandpadave52 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 That is gorgeous, artwork Steve, artwork. Steve Krumanaker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Krumanaker Posted October 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 Thanks everyone!! Grandpadave52 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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