Cliff Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 I don't know what these terms mean tape ungr'd line Do you? My goal is to take advantage of the reversible feature with a rotary switch here's pix Does it mean they want you to connect these with tape or a wire nut? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stick486 Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Cliff said: tape connect together 1 hour ago, Cliff said: ungr'd line neutral.. (un-grounded) HARO50 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Posted June 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 32 minutes ago, Stick486 said: connect together 2 hours ago, Cliff said: ungr'd line neutral.. (un-grounded) thanks. I was sort of sure that "tape" meant to tape it but the motor is not so old that tape would have the preferred connection. They had wire nuts in the mid 1970s when I bought it. But "Ungr'd" was a total mystery to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallpatch Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 Cliff are you talking about hooking a switch up like this to the reversible motor?? if this is what you intend to use, I'll show some more pictures where it took 8 wires going from the switch to the motor...as I was changing an old saw in to an over head router set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stick486 Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Cliff said: I was sort of sure that "tape" meant to tape it but the motor is not so old that tape would have the preferred connection. so wire nut it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stick486 Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) drum switches are your best bet... P1 is your neutral... P2 is your line voltage... Edited June 5, 2018 by Stick486 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roly Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) P1 the ungrn'd is the line side of the overcurrent protection and the hot side of the 120v supply is connected to this, the neutral side of the 120v supply is connected to what is marked line where T2,T5,and T4 are conned together. This is done so if the protector trips the windings would not remain energized. When connected for 240v the windings will remain energized from the other side of the line when the protector trips. It will work either way but they properly advise which is best for 120v. Roly Edited June 5, 2018 by Roly Grandpadave52 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Posted June 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 (edited) It's a 12 terminal cam switch. I mapped out the continuity in the two run positions . I'll post the mapping tomorrow Edited June 6, 2018 by Cliff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Posted June 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 here is the cam switch mapping I tried to wire it up but all I got was a blown fuse What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roly Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 (edited) I assume the numbers on your drawing are the switch terminal numbers. What motor wires did you connect to which switch terminal numbers ? I also assume the numbers on the left side is for one position of the switch and the other side is for the other switch position and the opposite sides are all open when one side is closed and all are open when switch is in the off position, Correct ? And a final question is the motor connected for 120v or 240v ? Roly What type of switch is it ? Does not look like a normal motor reversing switch like Stick drew. Edited June 6, 2018 by Roly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Posted June 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 Im going for the 115 as on the plate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Posted June 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 On 6/4/2018 at 8:08 PM, Stick486 said: drum switches are your best bet... P1 is your neutral... P2 is your line voltage... OK I broke down and got a Dayton Drum switch. I wanted to use the cheap taiwanese ( $28) cam switch but it just gave me fits when trying to wire it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandyDan Posted June 8, 2018 Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 (edited) I see the need for two double pole double throw switches. One switch switches the T5 and T8 back and forth between the pairs of wiresP2-T3 and T2-T4. and the another to switch the line voltage to either T5 or T8 as needed and then make note which way the switches need to be for FWD or REV. Edited June 8, 2018 by HandyDan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roly Posted June 8, 2018 Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 (edited) Just one double pole double throw switch. Roly CORRECTION the P2 on the drawing should be P1 as this is the motor overload which would be in CORRECTION the P2 on the drawing should be P1 as this is the motor overload which would be in the ungrounded line (hot) Edited June 8, 2018 by Roly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roly Posted June 8, 2018 Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Roly said: Just one double pole double throw switch. Roly CORRECTION the P2 on the drawing should be P1 as this is the motor overload which would be in CORRECTION the P2 on the drawing should be P1 as this is the motor overload which would be in the ungrounded line (hot) This is just the reversing switch another on-off switch is needed before L1. Roly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Posted June 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2018 well got r up and running. There's a goofy scraping noise. I can't quite call it a bearing but it sounds like there's a shim stock or bit of roof flashing rubbing one of the pulleys. But of course there's no such thing. I think I want to isolate and solve for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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