Steve Krumanaker Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 (edited) This is supposed to look like a rock wall or rocks in a bed of mortar. My wife says she likes it but doesn't think of rocks when she sees it. What do you see? what can I do to make it look more like a rock wall? Appreciate any and all thoughts, comments, or ideas. Oh yea, it's a work in progress. Actually, a try piece before I do this on a larger form. Honest opinions please. Steve Edited September 18, 2017 by Steve Krumanaker speeling John Morris, Chips N Dust and Cal 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Howe Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Looks like a rock wall, to me. Lotta time spent, huh? Did you draw it first? Cal and Steve Krumanaker 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lew Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 My 7th grade art teacher, who was raised on a farm, said all I could draw were flies. I do see the rocks. Do you think shading the rock areas nearest the "mortar" would make them look more 3 dimensional? Cal and Steve Krumanaker 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerald Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 I see rocks with the front 3 in the second picture looking best. I do not care for the Xs on the bottom rings. Interesting concept. Steve Krumanaker and Cal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandyDan Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 It does look like rocks and mortar to me. I like the idea. The bottom rings don't seem to fit the theme but then they won't be seen anyway when the bowl is being displayed. Steve Krumanaker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stick486 Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 I see an oven... top of a smelter... Steve Krumanaker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Krumanaker Posted September 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 9 hours ago, Gene Howe said: Looks like a rock wall, to me. Lotta time spent, huh? Did you draw it first? Thanks for reply, I did draw it first but that's much easier to do than a person would think. Basically just a bunch of straight lines drawn in pencil. Shade in where two lines intersect or meet and it creates the "mortar". Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Krumanaker Posted September 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 7 hours ago, lew said: My 7th grade art teacher, who was raised on a farm, said all I could draw were flies. I do see the rocks. Do you think shading the rock areas nearest the "mortar" would make them look more 3 dimensional? Hi Lew. Thanks for the reply. I did do that some but it's already pretty dark. I made the mistake of making the "mortar" completely black. I like the look but that limits me a little in shading other areas. Not a big deal on this piece as the bowl itself was never a keeper, just working out the kinks on this idea. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Krumanaker Posted September 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 7 hours ago, Gerald said: I see rocks with the front 3 in the second picture looking best. I do not care for the Xs on the bottom rings. Interesting concept. Hi Gerald thanks. I agree with you on both points. Mostly I just wanted a different "texture" for the bricks. I've never been a big fan of cross hatching and probably won't use that again. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Krumanaker Posted September 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 7 hours ago, HandyDan said: It does look like rocks and mortar to me. I like the idea. The bottom rings don't seem to fit the theme but then they won't be seen anyway when the bowl is being displayed. Thanks Dan, I appreciate your thoughts. Yea, not sure exactly how to terminate the pattern. I think maybe two rows of "bricks" was a mistake and it may look more like a cap with only one row. I have to disagree with you though about the bottom. It seems the first thing people do with a bowl is pick it up and look at the bottom. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Krumanaker Posted September 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 5 hours ago, Stick486 said: I see an oven... top of a smelter... Thanks Stick. I think that's good? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stick486 Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 24 minutes ago, Steve Krumanaker said: Thanks Stick. I think that's good? Steve https://duckduckgo.com/?q=adobe+ovens+pictures&t=ffsb&atb=v66-2&ia=images&iax=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Howe Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Don't know the wall thickness but, maybe some Dremel work for depth before burning? Steve Krumanaker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandyDan Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Steve Krumanaker said: Thanks Dan, I appreciate your thoughts. Yea, not sure exactly how to terminate the pattern. I think maybe two rows of "bricks" was a mistake and it may look more like a cap with only one row. I have to disagree with you though about the bottom. It seems the first thing people do with a bowl is pick it up and look at the bottom. Steve Put a "Do Not Touch" sigh on that one. Steve Krumanaker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Krumanaker Posted September 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 44 minutes ago, Gene Howe said: Don't know the wall thickness but, maybe some Dremel work for depth before burning? Gene, that's a great idea and a perfect example of why a good forum is such great asset. I won't do that on this bowl but I can see that happening on a piece for sure. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Krumanaker Posted September 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, HandyDan said: Put a "Do Not Touch" sigh on that one. Don't think it's going to matter, wife and daughter both think it looks like a giraffe! Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Smallpatch Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 (edited) Cut the dark areas about an 1/8 of an inch deeper than the rocks. A flexshaft on a Dremel with a good carbide bit from Wood Carvers Supply I think works the best. The handpiece is small enough to handle easily. www.woodcarverssupply.com Only one bit is needed a kutzall #265051. or maybe a kutzall #265082 depending on how wide the grove needs to be. These Kutzall bits will last a long time. These bits will leave the surface ruff kinda like concrete looks. If you want the surface smooth which in you case no then a diamond covered bit after you use the course bit would do that. It looks great but needs the extra depth to see and feel. Edited September 18, 2017 by Smallpatch Gene Howe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Howe Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Hey Patch, thanks for those stock #s. I didn't know Kutzall made grinders that small. Grandpadave52 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chips N Dust Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 I see the rocks too. The only thing I would add is to see if you could not make it a little more 3D, if that is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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