Smallpatch Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 (edited) Our live oaks loose all their leaves in early spring and at the same time the new leaves take their place. The average person never knows it it happening. Probably more live oaks and mesquites than all the rest put together in my area. Edited May 14, 2017 by Smallpatch kmealy and HARO50 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred W. Hargis Jr Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 (edited) 13 hours ago, Chips N Dust said: Hemlock has needles. About 1/2 the length of douglas fir needles. Hemlock is from the Tsuga family. Douglas fir is Psuedotsuga (false hemlock) Hmmmm......maybe the ones I have aren't Hemlock (that's what the "srborist" told me last fall when we had some trees removed. These look like leaves (very thin leaves) and they all fell off last fall. Edited May 14, 2017 by Fred W. Hargis Jr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Allen Jones Posted May 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 Great answers all and very informative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chips N Dust Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 2 hours ago, Fred W. Hargis Jr said: Hmmmm......maybe the ones I have aren't Hemlock (that's what the "srborist" told me last fall when we had some trees removed. These look like leaves (very thin leaves) and they all fell off last fall. Fred, if you get a chance, take a picture of a branch with the needles/leaves and either post it or pm me with it. Also, a picture of the trunk would be helpful. Maybe I can id it for you HARO50 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred W. Hargis Jr Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 OK, let me try. It's really windy today so if these don't get it I'll try again: The trees, these are 2 around the perimeter. I didn't do a close up of the trunk but can if that's needed. The leaves, I hope enough are in focus to see them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadio Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 Fred those are not like any Hemlock I have ever seen,at least not like our West Coast Hemlock https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Picture+of+western+Hemlock&t=ffnt&atb=v61-2ab&ia=images&iax=1 Herb HARO50 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Howe Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 Just to be on the safe side Fred, don't chew on the needles. Grandpadave52, Dadio, HandyDan and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chips N Dust Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 (edited) @Fred W. Hargis Jr As Herb said, that is not Western Hemlock, nor is it Mountain Hemlock. I will do some research and see what it is. Also, could you send me a close up of a single branch so I can see the leaves better? Also, does this tree have fruit/cones/seed pods? If so, a picture of those would help. Thank you Edited May 14, 2017 by Chips N Dust HARO50 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadio Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 Maybe cut one branch off and send it to us for analysis, might be some kind of new cannabis. I am sure I could find someone close by who would smoke a few leaves for us. Herb HARO50, Cal and Grandpadave52 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred W. Hargis Jr Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 Here's some more. This is a different one, slightly larger and a better view of the trunk as well as some branches right at the trunk. I cut a piece off and brought it in to photo the leaves since it was so windy out. HARO50 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p_toad Posted May 15, 2017 Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 (edited) On 5/13/2017 at 1:00 PM, Chips N Dust said: Pacific Madrone and Myrtlewood The conifer is Larch (tamerack) So, where does that leave Metasequoia (dawn redwood) (sorry). They lose their leaves. Edited May 15, 2017 by p_toad HARO50 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Posted May 15, 2017 Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 Fred, it might could be a bald cypress. Definitely not any type of hemlock that I am familiar with. Cal HARO50 and Grandpadave52 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallpatch Posted May 15, 2017 Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 The bald Cyprus, cypress? we have here are close but I think the needles here are a little thinner.! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Posted May 15, 2017 Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 Just a WAG 'Patch, Cal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Howe Posted May 15, 2017 Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 This discussion is quite interesting. Fred's tree is sure a strange one. Are there any others in the area? Maybe someone bought a sapling from a nursery. Might not be a native. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpadave52 Posted May 15, 2017 Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 7 minutes ago, Gene Howe said: This discussion is quite interesting. Fred's tree is sure a strange one. Are there any others in the area? Maybe someone bought a sapling from a nursery. Might not be a native. or perhaps... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Howe Posted May 15, 2017 Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 The AA are at it again...Alien Arborists, that is. Grandpadave52 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred W. Hargis Jr Posted May 15, 2017 Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 25 minutes ago, Gene Howe said: This discussion is quite interesting. Fred's tree is sure a strange one. Are there any others in the area? Maybe someone bought a sapling from a nursery. Might not be a native. It's just one of a ton of things growing here that I can't identify. We have 5, and I've not seen them anywhere else. The cypress might be a good guess, I just didn't think they would survive this far north....shows what I know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Howe Posted May 15, 2017 Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 18 minutes ago, Fred W. Hargis Jr said: It's just one of a ton of things growing here that I can't identify. We have 5, and I've not seen them anywhere else. The cypress might be a good guess, I just didn't think they would survive this far north....shows what I know! That bark sure doesn't look cypressy to me. Although, they are deciduous conifers. It's a mystery. Did you mention whether or not they produce cones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred W. Hargis Jr Posted May 15, 2017 Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 37 minutes ago, Gene Howe said: That bark sure doesn't look cypressy to me. Although, they are deciduous conifers. It's a mystery. Did you mention whether or not they produce cones? Forgot that: they do not produce anything that I've noticed to carry the seeds. No nuts, cones, or fruit. I've only been here a year, and I suppose it's possible last year was just an off year for the trees...weather or something kept them from producing whatever it is they produce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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