kmealy Posted February 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 "First, let's kill all the lawyers." - Wm Shakespeare http://www.woodworkingnetwork.com/news/woodworking-industry-news/itc-moves-block-bosch-reaxx-saw?utm_source=Real_Magnet&utm_medium=Email&utm_term=byhammerandhand@yahoo.com&utm_content=DAILY BRIEF&utm_campaign=Bosch Reaxx saw blocked in U.S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Howe Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 Sickening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieL Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 (edited) I was a meat cutter for about 20 years, and I've been mostly a hobbyist woodworker for about 30 years. I still have all my fingers, complete. There are plenty of machines other then the table saw in the wood shop that can easily take a bite out of you. If you can't pay attention to what your doing and you get injured, then you really have no one to blame but yourself. Plus I hate the fact that SawStop wants to force their saw on everyone in this country, but won't support the American worker. I believe that the saws are made in Taiwan. No thanks. Edited February 1, 2017 by CharlieL HARO50 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred W. Hargis Jr Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 It is discouraging to see the ITC ruling. It's my understanding there are some a few legal things they (Bosch) can do but it's not looking good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpadave52 Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 Just one more reason not to support anything offered by SawStop...EVER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stick486 Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 29 minutes ago, Grandpadave52 said: Just one more reason not to support anything offered by SawStop...EVER DITTO!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmealy Posted February 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 I've read that Steven Gass is a patent lawyer and wrapped so many patents around the table saw (and other tools) that he left no wiggle room for anyone else who would not license from him. Do you remember when he got turned down by the mfrs that he tried to get a federal law mandating (his) technology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyJack Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 (edited) I support SawStop 100%. I'm not just a user. Ive been seriously hurt by the table saw... A hobbyist can refuse, but the profession doesn't get much choice... Edited October 28, 2017 by BillyJack Cal, p_toad and John Morris 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Morris Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 9 minutes ago, BillyJack said: I support SawStop 100%. I'm not just a user. Ive been seriously hurt by the table saw... A hobbyist can refuse, but the profession doesn't get much choice... I've always said, if I ever owned a production shop, the SawStop would be in it, and every other safety device known to man. HandyDan, steven newman, p_toad and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyJack Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 I get pretty protective over SawStop . Did you say SawStop???? John Morris, Cal, Grandpadave52 and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steamshovel Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 My most productive safety device is myself. If I am not thinking right, I'll come back another day. I have even done a dry run without the blade running to see what if. I know accidents happen and I try hard to keep it that way. Preston lew and HARO50 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadio Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 On 2/1/2017 at 5:43 AM, kmealy said: "First, let's kill all the lawyers." - Wm Shakespeare http://www.woodworkingnetwork.com/news/woodworking-industry-news/itc-moves-block-bosch-reaxx-saw?utm_source=Real_Magnet&utm_medium=Email&utm_term=byhammerandhand@yahoo.com&utm_content=DAILY BRIEF&utm_campaign=Bosch Reaxx saw blocked in U.S. A sad day. Herb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Howe Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 4 hours ago, steamshovel said: My most productive safety device is myself. If I am not thinking right, I'll come back another day. I have even done a dry run without the blade running to see what if. I know accidents happen and I try hard to keep it that way. Preston I'm with ya, Preston. A dry run is always a good tactic. Dadio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post schnewj Posted October 30, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 On 10/28/2017 at 12:24 PM, BillyJack said: I support SawStop 100%. I'm not just a user. Ive been seriously hurt by the table saw... A hobbyist can refuse, but the profession doesn't get much choice... I'll agree to disagree. I would have insisted on a Saw Stop table for our carpentry shop if they had been available at the time. However, that doesn't mean that I HAVE to accept the system. I, like hundreds of past and present table saw users, with many hundreds of years of total experience have avoided such hand injuries. Please don't take this wrong, as I don't know the circumstances of your tablesaw mishap, but the basic safety precautions have kept many of us injury free before SS ever hit the market. Statistically, only roughly 10% of accidents are the result of equipment malfunctions. That leaves 90% of the causes to human error. Yes, SS can take the human error out of the equation, however, at what cost of complacency? There are much more whirly things in the woodworking shop then just table saws. The saws are quality, the safety system is great, but like many here, I have a sour taste in my mouth over Gass's tactics over the years. In addition, the system itself, is just too destructive. I know, you'll argue that the cost doesn't matter when it comes to someone's hand...I totally agree. However, the Bosch Reaxx system is hands above the SS system. It is cheaper and much less destructive then the SS and every bit as effective. It is really a shame that Bosch has been locked out of the market by the greed of this shyster lawyer. I saw where Gass sold the SS company, I never saw did hear what the patent or royalty dispositions were on the deal. We can only hope that; Bosch pursues the patent infringement claims, in court, and eventually wins, or makes a deal for the use of the alleged infringements, or the patent(s) runs out. When Gass's ploy to force other manufacturers to use his system and pay him royalties failed, he declared war on not just the industry but every potential user out there. Gene Howe, Dadio, kmealy and 2 others 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kmealy Posted October 30, 2017 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 Grandpadave52, schnewj, HARO50 and 2 others 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schnewj Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 ...says it all... Bless Mike Rowe for putting it in simple terms that even the slowest can understand clearly... Dadio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyJack Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) 9 hours ago, steamshovel said: My most productive safety device is myself. If I am not thinking right, I'll come back another day. I have even done a dry run without the blade running to see what if. I know accidents happen and I try hard to keep it that way. Preston And then you add SawStop... Automatically improved... Edited October 30, 2017 by BillyJack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al B Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 What I don't like about SawStop is, Steve Gass is preventing other manufacturers from producing better versions of table saw safety. kmealy, Dadio, schnewj and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmealy Posted November 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 I used a SawStop recently. I really didn't like that I could not see what the blade was doing. I guess I've become accustomed to visual control. Dadio and Fred W. Hargis Jr 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieL Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 Stumpy Nubs, brought to you by SawStop. Dadio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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